tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post7022694410142062274..comments2024-03-20T17:32:35.238+00:00Comments on Pedigree Dogs Exposed - The Blog: The Frenchies that win by a noseJemima Harrisonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05092892697145388048noreply@blogger.comBlogger97125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-19083785833592222762021-07-01T21:47:23.398+01:002021-07-01T21:47:23.398+01:00I completely agree with you on the German Shepherd...I completely agree with you on the German Shepherd. I hate seeing their hind end look so week now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-77151803952397885952021-06-30T19:57:20.895+01:002021-06-30T19:57:20.895+01:00I have two frenchie girls - mother and daughter - ...I have two frenchie girls - mother and daughter - who fall in the middle between Arnie Ana flint muzzle wise… <br />The older was chosen from a line with longer muzzle, and when we chose to breed her ( naturally ofcourse and natural birth too) we went for a male with the longer muzzle and in general longer legs too….<br />Now we have what I in my mind consider a heathy ‘old type’ frenchie ( mom) and a formula one frenchie - the daughter is taller, slimmer, faster, bouncier and soooo beautiful!!!! We plan to breed her this winter, and again we found a male with longer muzzle and longer legs….<br />We LOVE the frenchie mind and temprament, but I will not support or breed dogs that are so stunted that they can’t even play for more than a few minutes….<br />Our younger girl loves to run at our fence line with the neighbors Labrador - and she wins every time!!! Isishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08482301518794549815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-16324507515460397222021-06-30T15:53:35.827+01:002021-06-30T15:53:35.827+01:00Your complete disregard for the quality of life of...Your complete disregard for the quality of life of your pet while you center your own memories of "fluffy" is pretty reprehensible. You even admit that you would have a perfectly lovable dog in this alternate timeline but since it doesn't have a face shortened to the point of dyspnea, it doesn't count? Why should you be entitled to this? I highly doubt your dog could have a good quality of life even if it could breathe, so long as it's owner is so totally obsessed with their own relationship with themself instead of their pets lived experience.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-8455349452086234092021-06-30T11:05:09.760+01:002021-06-30T11:05:09.760+01:00I have a Boston, looking at the pictures I though ...I have a Boston, looking at the pictures I though they're just trying bread a BostonJulian Crookn orthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15580236701791758765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-722476314117438492021-06-29T23:05:12.964+01:002021-06-29T23:05:12.964+01:00I own both breed types.. don’t believe I’m sick or...I own both breed types.. don’t believe I’m sick or ignorant!! My male has a flat face like Arnie, not as predominant. And my female has a longer muzzle as the UK strain, I love them both & they are both very different dogs. <br /><br />Don’t be so quick to judge. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-60336965268088444052021-06-29T18:28:54.623+01:002021-06-29T18:28:54.623+01:00We adopted our dog ¨salsa¨ mix of french bulldog w...We adopted our dog ¨salsa¨ mix of french bulldog with yorkie. He looks just like Flint and we love him.<br />You can see more of him on his IG<br />https://www.instagram.com/frenchbulldogyorkie/Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15534812739687548365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-76666363576838737592021-06-29T15:17:20.849+01:002021-06-29T15:17:20.849+01:00The AKC standards are absolute DOG SHITE. Anyone c...The AKC standards are absolute DOG SHITE. Anyone chasing certificates instead of the health of the dogs they own and breed, should take a good look at themselves very very carefully.<br /><br />Anyone chasing certificates to make money on people who haven't done their research should do the same! SHAME ON YOU ALL!<br /><br />And for all the people who didn't do their research, I feel sorry for you. Your poor beloved pets :(Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-15733144959313072272021-06-29T13:43:52.946+01:002021-06-29T13:43:52.946+01:00I have a special Hate on for people obsessed with ...I have a special Hate on for people obsessed with modern Breed Standard that results in animals who can't survive or breed without post industrial age medical intervention.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-38690675930615524622021-06-28T21:23:30.379+01:002021-06-28T21:23:30.379+01:00No people are trying to change pugs too. They’re h...No people are trying to change pugs too. They’re health is more important than the look doesn’t matter if they weren’t bred to play football. I want a bulldog that lives longer than 5 years and doesn’t get winded and tired from going up fucking stairs. All brachycephalic dogs need to be bred to be less boxy, and with a longer muzzle Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-65156450505087477512021-06-28T20:01:15.380+01:002021-06-28T20:01:15.380+01:00So leave the flaws there to breed even more proble...So leave the flaws there to breed even more problems? No. You get out lines then bring tight. You balance the breeding to improve the gene pool not for looks. For fit for purpose, longer and better lifestyle not a short life riddled with problem after problem. The arrogance of 'pure' bloodlines to ruin the health of any breed staggers me. Give me a healthy mutt any time that has 15 healthy years over say what 7 or 8 years riddled with breathing issues, hip dysplasia dental issues. Damn people suck. Lunabeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08238060463749670804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-34044623737023280042021-06-28T19:00:01.094+01:002021-06-28T19:00:01.094+01:00Pugs are Pugs. Please don't do the whole whata...Pugs are Pugs. Please don't do the whole whataboutism. There are plenty of people in this thread that say they would prefer a frenchie with a longer snout. Educate your customers and tell them you are breeding for longer life. Make a stand. The way you are talking, breeders are just in it for the money. Sad. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-53819440569845764912021-06-28T18:52:36.534+01:002021-06-28T18:52:36.534+01:00"Long snout agenda" LOL. I think you mea..."Long snout agenda" LOL. I think you mean "Healthy dog agenda". Many people that have/had frenchies and learned after they owned them how sick they can get. I embrace the reform as much as I embraced my flat faced lil fuzzy man. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-88809224507257120662021-06-28T17:00:45.630+01:002021-06-28T17:00:45.630+01:00Save the purebred pedigree line? Think about how ...Save the purebred pedigree line? Think about how the various breeds BECAME breeds with a registry! At a certain point, fanciers decided THESE specific studs were producing the animal that the fanciers wanted to own. Those studs were not "purebreds" until they were documented as foundation sires. <br />I am more familiar with horses, so that's where I am going for my example. The Morgan horse came from a little stallion in New England who belonged to Justin Morgan, hence the name. He could do a lot of things well, and farmers and horse fanciers realized that his offspring were much like their sire. He became a very popular sire and his offspring seemed to carry much the same prepotency. The Morgan Horse Registry was eventually founded and standards were established, to keep the short, slightly stocky, very versatile horses coming. Justin Morgan's (the horse, that is) ancestry was not really known. The only certainty is that he was not a purebred Morgan!<br />Over the years, horse fashions changed. People started wanting something flashier in the show ring and didn't care how much the horse could pull or how fast he could run or trot, or even how good his disposition was. By the time I was riding in local horse shows, Morgans looked pretty much like the American Saddlebred in the show ring--taller, longer legs, flashy gaits (with hooves grown longer and shod for high action, not quite as extreme as the Tennessee Walkers, but still stressing the legs and feet.) Even the Morgans shown in harness were chosen for flashy action and size. These horses specialized (well, their owners did--the horse had no choice!)<br />Eventually, the breed practically divided into old-type Morgans (the University of Vermont kept to the old standards) and the modern show Morgan. There is now a separate registry for the old-type Morgan: shorter, more versatile, good disposition, and holding to the old standard. The Lippincott Morgan registry is trying to maintain the original Morgan Horse genetics. They are both beautiful animals, but I prefer good disposition and versatility over show ring flash. The show ring always rewards the current fashion; I prefer to own the healthy, useful horse that is a pleasure to be around and can enjoy a long life.<br />Taking any genetics to an extreme using a limited gene pool will lead to problems. As veterinary science uses more and more high tech tools, more of these problems will come to light. As breeders and owners of these animals, we have a responsibility to make their lives a good as possible. Breeding to standards that lead to injury, pain, health problems, shortened lives is not ethical. "Fashion" is a terrible standard to impose on a living creature; it is a fabrication of publicity and advertising designed to increase someone's fame or profit, and the only certainty to fashion is that it will change shortly!Flohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15146407900399780738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-41118416121319581232021-06-28T16:56:38.006+01:002021-06-28T16:56:38.006+01:00Maybe the AKC standards should be changed. They o...Maybe the AKC standards should be changed. They ought to reflect traits based on the overall health of the breed. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07331902979826099189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-80382361282823392412021-06-28T16:48:27.245+01:002021-06-28T16:48:27.245+01:00Same here. They're much nicer dogs. The peop...Same here. They're much nicer dogs. The people that're for the left are either ignorant, sick, or both. This should be about your dog's well being and not your whims and ignorance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-10346089816491248892021-06-28T16:10:27.897+01:002021-06-28T16:10:27.897+01:00Hello, i am a university student studying ecosyste...Hello, i am a university student studying ecosystem management, i usually don't comment on things like this; however, If you are breeding ANYTHING without the intention of producing healthy and happy specimens than why are you breeding at all?! The breeders that have commented are DEPLORABLE. You KNOW, you know that you have to provide DNA tests to be registered by the AKC, so let that GO. That argument on it's own basis is invalid, you aren't getting anywhere there. Also i feel disgusted that any person would learn how to breed a dog and then try to defend obvious health problems. Let's start with the fact that most Frenchies have been bred so small that they cannot deliver puppies naturally? How is that fair?! if we abandoned this domesticated dog breed and left it to survive in the wild THEY WOULD DIE OUT. There are no c-sections out in the wilderness. There are no special vets that would preform surgeries on them so that they could breathe. These are indicators that the breed itself has become a mockery of what it once was. TO THE BREEDERS PERPETUATING THIS: i don't want your dog, i don't want to see any of yours dogs being shown, i would gladly purchase a puppy from someone breeding the dog to further a HEALTHY BREED. ONE MORE TIME FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK: if a dog cannot procreate without human help (as many toy breeds have become) IT WOULD NOT SURVIVE WITHOUT YOU. If a dog has problems breathing at rest, while sleeping and has a limited mobiility due to breathing issues; IT IS NOT HEALTHY. if you are not breeding with the purpose of adding, healthy and beneficial specimens, then stop NOW. if you are in it for the money and don't care STOP NOW. Who gives a f**k about what the dog looks like if every moment in it's life it suffers? How do you advertise that? BUYERS/FUTURE PET PARENTS: do your research, purebred can take many forms, if that is what you're after please take the time to find a dog that will live a healthy long life with you. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-74632332235267677732021-06-28T15:00:41.085+01:002021-06-28T15:00:41.085+01:00God its so embarrassing to see so many people in t...God its so embarrassing to see so many people in these comments trying their very hardest to stretch and jump to the worst conclusions possible, and to make the worst possible excuses as to why they support breeding dogs like poor Arnie. I understand the sentimentality, you wouldn't want to be told your kid is a genetic mistake either but... If the shoe fits:) Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-32069998774897513352021-06-28T12:48:23.468+01:002021-06-28T12:48:23.468+01:00So the problem is the AKC standard promoting unhea...So the problem is the AKC standard promoting unhealthy traits in dogs, and breeders who "cringe" when they see a dog which has been bred to be more healthy. Look at pictures of dogs from 100 years ago and they have the longer snouts. It is the AKC and others which have deviated from the original bed characteristics.<br /><br />Some pugs are now being bred to have longer snouts, as are British Bulldogs, so your assertion that this isn't happening is incorrectAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-15693739064717955332021-06-28T09:47:08.980+01:002021-06-28T09:47:08.980+01:00A few years back we toured Canada in one of their ...A few years back we toured Canada in one of their huge mobile homes. We saw 'British' dog breeds everywhere (they obviously love dogs) but the were the shapes of dogs I used to see when I was much younger - NOT what we see now being dragged around Crufts. Over 60 years ago we owned a large Pekinese - not the minute, over-hairy, ultra-flat-nosed scrap with popping eyes that we see now which can barely breathe, let alone walk. He was long legged and what used to be called a 'Lion Peke' with a nose more like the right hand Frenchie above. He walked everywhere with us - even up Snowdon and back. He was a lion by name and a lion by nature and always won dog fights by biting the opposers underbelly and would have defended us to the death should anyone try to harm us! We should be looking abroad for some of our beautiful breeds that have not been totally ruined by show breeders!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12715010361861382694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-88721784629327237172021-06-22T07:31:52.312+01:002021-06-22T07:31:52.312+01:00I’m so glad that my frenchie looks like the modera...I’m so glad that my frenchie looks like the moderate ones. Here in the Philippines, it is considered as not “quality”, breeders only consider quality french bulldog like Arnie. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-36293564913044895622021-06-03T05:29:43.890+01:002021-06-03T05:29:43.890+01:00Bad example. Ear cropping is still desired in many...Bad example. Ear cropping is still desired in many breeds and legal in many places.Skyehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14845305990983021847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-73866223538032907142021-06-03T05:27:48.069+01:002021-06-03T05:27:48.069+01:00At least you're working on a way forward for t...At least you're working on a way forward for the breed. I'm doing something similar for Satin rabbits here, however their issue is a tiny gene pool which leads to high rates of infertility and genetic weakness which leaves them vulnerable to malocclusion and infectious disease. Basically, their immune systems suck. I should probably specify that the reason their gene pool is so tiny here is because very few were ever imported when it was legal, and show demands purity so no outcrossing allowed. But I don't show my rabbits as I don't care for it. What I do care for is the health and wellbeing of the rabbits and preserving the Satin gene in the population here.Skyehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14845305990983021847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-68115111679448351502021-06-03T05:09:21.416+01:002021-06-03T05:09:21.416+01:00Show breeders will swear until they're blue in...Show breeders will swear until they're blue in the face that dogs that are actually true to the breed are ill-bred mutts because they don't conform to what current fashion has turned the breed into.<br /><br />You see it especially often in the working breeds. For example; Show breeders will scream themselves hoarse that the often taller, rangier herding dogs with wacky ears and sometimes non-standard colours or patterns and long, prestigious, varied bloodlines are nothing but crossbred mutts, and that their own boxed up, stocky, flashy show dogs who are overly familiar with their close relatives and wouldn't know a sheep if it snuck up and headbutted them in the rear are the true representatives of the breed. Absolute, non-sensical garbage spouted by people who haven't one ounce of sense in their heads.Skyehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14845305990983021847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-89851460733324651542021-06-03T04:46:45.655+01:002021-06-03T04:46:45.655+01:00No, Flint looks like a true, well bred Frenchie, ...No, Flint looks like a true, well bred Frenchie, not the flat faced abominations favoured by breeders today.Skyehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14845305990983021847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-39190056810005544052020-10-18T18:17:57.521+01:002020-10-18T18:17:57.521+01:00Now I understand this article. It was biased all a...Now I understand this article. It was biased all along. This article was published by a breeder that is pushing its long snout agenda for people to look at. Sadly your dogs will be the ones extinct and in shelters if you keep breeding that messy mix. Its breeders like you that take it to the extreme and want to abolish the standard for your personal views. Why wasn't there any real breeders that show in akc interviewed? Why aren't the health tests and dna test also published wiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com