tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post6980634090372985525..comments2024-03-20T17:32:35.238+00:00Comments on Pedigree Dogs Exposed - The Blog: Victorious VaoilaJemima Harrisonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05092892697145388048noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-60890350210814388952012-05-02T17:49:27.099+01:002012-05-02T17:49:27.099+01:00an ancient breed
http://terriermandotcom.blogspot....an ancient breed<br />http://terriermandotcom.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/italian-job.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-5448215412104706662012-04-23T18:59:37.602+01:002012-04-23T18:59:37.602+01:00Let's just hope this very junior bitch doesn&#...Let's just hope this very junior bitch doesn't develop as per normal into a grotesque monstrosity. Keep an eye on her development - females of this breed are often very late bloomers...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-12745492750004538792012-04-23T18:44:07.874+01:002012-04-23T18:44:07.874+01:00People should remember (or maybe learn!) that ectr...People should remember (or maybe learn!) that ectropion often worsens with fatigue and with age and photo's taken with the dog in different positions/light etc can alter how a dog looks in different pictures.<br />Perfect eyelid conformation should be the aim of all breeds but it won't happen overnight without creating genetic botlenecks so for now the least bad must be rewarded and bred from, taking into account the health and conformation of the rest of the dog too.<br />VPAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-12458286846579096382012-04-23T17:48:17.926+01:002012-04-23T17:48:17.926+01:00Not sure if this is apropos to this blog, but as f...Not sure if this is apropos to this blog, but as far as BOB winners not getting health checked... I keep reading that people are doing it to "Make a stand" about the checks. IMO it would make a lot more sense to prove a dog is healthy enough to pass the test, then pull from the group as protest. The people who refuse the vet checks just make it seem they have something to hide. I am in the US so maybe I am missing some logic here... PamAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-72669200835800195452012-04-23T14:30:34.030+01:002012-04-23T14:30:34.030+01:00Thanks you for clearing that up and happy to hear...Thanks you for clearing that up and happy to hear it, Vaoila's eye does look very different in that March photo.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-83673023793184668682012-04-23T06:12:25.125+01:002012-04-23T06:12:25.125+01:00Really a nice bitch, this dog are good breed. Nice...Really a nice bitch, this dog are good breed. Nice Post.Protection Dogshttp://www.cck9.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-82301814856304265552012-04-22T22:39:16.568+01:002012-04-22T22:39:16.568+01:00Jemima, thanks for the slew of great posts today. ...Jemima, thanks for the slew of great posts today. I missed your posts. And the Neo bitch is great. I agree there's no reason for any dog to show haw, but at least this bitch looks like a dog instead of a mutant alien. I agree that this is a good sign that breeds can self-correct quickly if the vet check scheme is continued.S.K.Y.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10394626858056890715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-33695727840351667372012-04-22T21:11:40.186+01:002012-04-22T21:11:40.186+01:00Do I wish this dog had no haw?...yes. My personal ...Do I wish this dog had no haw?...yes. My personal view is that there is no good reason to breed dogs with ectropion. We can all preach perfection but COME ON this is a vast improvement on what we've been seeing in the show ring for the last couple of decades.<br />Jemima is right, there is a clear direction of travel and it's towards healthier pedigree dogs. "Early days, long way to go, lot's still to do"...let's hold back on the cynical cliches and just give a bit of praise where it's due.<br />Kevin ColwillAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-69513976248047001772012-04-22T20:11:32.861+01:002012-04-22T20:11:32.861+01:00I suggest you have a slightly slower search of goo...I suggest you have a slightly slower search of google images, then, Anon. There are two pictures of the same chap - one after he'd had one eye corrected.<br /><br />http://www.austinmccormick.co.uk/austinmccormick.co.uk/Ectropion_Photographs.html<br /><br />As for Vaiola - I've used the same picture as I used in March. There is another pic of her on my March post which looks like she has no haw, but that I think is because her head is tipped up. <br /><br />I do not re-touch photographs. What on earth would be the point?<br /><br />JemimaJemima Harrisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05092892697145388048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-62196426476954031122012-04-22T19:07:52.509+01:002012-04-22T19:07:52.509+01:00I am disappointed to observe that the photo of Vao...I am disappointed to observe that the photo of Vaoila previously posted on your blog in March<br />http://pedigreedogsexposed.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/neos-at-crufts-2012-pt-2.html<br /><br />.....shows Vaoila with a total lack of haw. The picture looks as if it has been photo shopped. It is quite different to that which you have presented today. I sincerely hope this is not the case. If it is then you need to stop this practice. I've spotted one other example (the man with ectropian. A quick search of google images reveals the gentleman has only one afflicted eye. The example you use has been edited to give him ectropian in both eyes.This is sadly sloppy journalism and does the cause you are fighting and those who support you (including myself) no favours.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-77868706115678636052012-04-22T18:59:24.220+01:002012-04-22T18:59:24.220+01:00Very nice bitch. I will be interested to see how w...Very nice bitch. I will be interested to see how well she ages. She is proof you can have type wihout unhealthy exaggeration as I would instantly recognise her as a Neo.<br />VPAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-78715806748521112652012-04-22T17:17:19.438+01:002012-04-22T17:17:19.438+01:00The bitch looks so much more comfortable than the ...The bitch looks so much more comfortable than the dog. I'm not sure why anyone thinks she is not "typey" enough. Since when does typey mean looking like a cross between a dog and an elephant?<br /><br />Vaoila surely is heavy enough to be imposing and has enough wrinkling to distinguish her as a Neapolitan, rather than a more generic "Mastiff." The dog is a perfect example of how some people latch on to a distinguishing characteristic in a breed standard and push it to the nth degree, to the point that the dog stops looking like a dog with a feature and starts looking like a caricature. <br /><br />She is also proof that it's easy enough to get very nice dogs that are capable of passing with the revised standards in short order; it must be as hard as heck to keep the extremes in conformation, ear, skin, coat etc IN the gene pool to begin with (I found a show Cocker breeder who said on her site that the field-type coat is the "original" coat and that even show-line Cockers don't always get the show coat; since dogs tend to revert to "medium brown dog" without careful breeding, it stands to reason that the farther from natural type you get, the harder it is to keep that look in your line). Common sense would dictate that breeding for a less extreme look would allow more dogs to stay in the breeding pool, and therefore serve the dual purpose of slowing down the narrowing that typically occurs in a closed stud book.Bethnoreply@blogger.com