tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post6392995767626586568..comments2024-03-20T17:32:35.238+00:00Comments on Pedigree Dogs Exposed - The Blog: Crufts 2014 - Best of Breed Basset HoundJemima Harrisonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05092892697145388048noreply@blogger.comBlogger99125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-31927252299410784962014-07-19T13:56:46.177+01:002014-07-19T13:56:46.177+01:00I met a Drever once. Very nice dog. Like a Basset,...I met a Drever once. Very nice dog. Like a Basset, but not a Basset. No loose skin, no laterally compressed head and muzzle. But a hound with shorter legs. I understand the breed comes from Sweden.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-24783007172406075292014-03-28T02:19:32.478+00:002014-03-28T02:19:32.478+00:00Yea isn't strange how breeders will tell you a...Yea isn't strange how breeders will tell you all sorts of things about diet and often exercise too. Don't let your pup run up stairs even two stairs, don't feed it too much protein (that's meat) don't let it jump don't let it don't let it....... if something goes wrong then its your fault a problem of "proper care" for "the breed".<br /><br />When in fact it's all their doing for breeding a genetic mess in the first place.<br /><br />Puppies should be puppies play and rough house until they drop eat their bellies full and sleep. This is how they build up strength in the joints and ligaments. If this is all too much they've simply lost all function as a dog no question.<br /><br />Antonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14041212020431214852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-42168640989599390942014-03-26T23:32:20.682+00:002014-03-26T23:32:20.682+00:00I don't feed the raw food diet and have two Ca...I don't feed the raw food diet and have two Cavaliers at seven years old without a heart murmur. Keeping a Cavalier on a low salt, sugar and fat diet will help, but unfortunately the MVD in Cavaliers is a genetic problem not one caused by diet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-22164054108569495452014-03-25T18:56:55.763+00:002014-03-25T18:56:55.763+00:00if you feed your dog a balanced raw food diet as y...if you feed your dog a balanced raw food diet as young as possible you can negate many of their genetic health problems I have a seven year old cavalier with only a faint heart murmer and a five year old with no probs at all I rescued them three years ago,i feed them as near as possible to a natural diet and they are thriving. I am 74. The old can learn new tricks lol AliceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-30790085574044710312014-03-20T08:26:02.230+00:002014-03-20T08:26:02.230+00:00Don't shoot the messenger! Unfortunately you d...Don't shoot the messenger! Unfortunately you don't yet understand that your comments reveal more about your character than the person you are criticising. And if JH wanted to be the 'centre of attention', she could breed grossly exaggerated dogs and show them off in a ring, which is rapidly becoming the modern day equivalent of a freak show. Why else do people show dogs? Narcissism.<br /><br />Thanks to people like Jemima the next generation will be more educated about welfare issues associated with dog breeding.<br /><br />Steven Pinker claims that it is inevitable that the human race will be become less violent and more empathetic in the future. His book 'the better angels of our nature' details evidence that shows a dramatic decline in violence, cruelty and more focus on rights and welfare, since records began. It is inevitable that future generations will become kinder and more benevolent. It's just sad that you can't appreciate that people like JH are working towards that too...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-56392248298574902452014-03-20T07:36:03.878+00:002014-03-20T07:36:03.878+00:00May I ask you where this exaggeration came from, i...May I ask you where this exaggeration came from, in the first place? It was imposed by spies of foreign countries or by extra terrestrials? In other words, some external enemies plated it into the breeds and not the breeders heroically fight the consequences? Or maybe it is the breeders themselves who turned dogs into cripples for the purposes of show fashion?Eugeniehttp://budka.uz/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-18194550854499495742014-03-20T04:54:02.406+00:002014-03-20T04:54:02.406+00:00Ps there are a limited number of breeders around t...Ps there are a limited number of breeders around the world breeding good sound healthy working dachshounds (: None have keels so low they can't go to ground.Antonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14041212020431214852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-67215012896220056802014-03-20T04:51:08.134+00:002014-03-20T04:51:08.134+00:00Isn't strange the Albany basset looks just lik...Isn't strange the Albany basset looks just like something you might get from a puppy mill? <br /><br />No not really. The truth is and this must cause some discomfort to breeders and showers is that puppy mill dogs are often healthier. They might not receive the pampering and ideal conditions but the progeny are a lot happier as dogs assuming they had their shots.<br /><br />There is no particular prestige in getting a pedigree mutt any more from a "responsible" breeder none at all and the sooner everyone but especially pet owners realise this the better for our dogs. <br /><br />You have to wonder why it's taking so long in some Western countries like America? I still see without fail on breeders web sites there the astonishing truth for all to read except the breeders who put the info there themselves don't seem to be reading it. <br /><br />"Lilly looking for pet home was paralysed but after steroid boost is normal as any other dog" I read this yesterday on an American dachshund breeders site! And they had a whole page of these pet quality juniors with various ailments and problems from broken tails to missing teeth. Looking for "their forever homes". <br /><br />They also list all the problems the breed can have unless you of course buy from someone like them who is a pedigree responsible breeder. <br /><br />"Pet home" in America means a cripple that won't even pass the first round in a show!!!<br /><br />Aren't dogs meant to be pets anymore is that not the main function of non working dogs, is it show or reject?<br /><br />The "good ones" on her site were to go to "only guaranteed show homes and strictly overseas!" In each case (another page full) they had obvious health deviations too though these werent mentioned! These no doubt aimed at places like Asia.<br /><br />And of course pages and pages of her winning with dogs in America. <br /><br />One has to ask if these people think the public are complete idiots!Antonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14041212020431214852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-34312705569551674912014-03-19T23:05:23.904+00:002014-03-19T23:05:23.904+00:00Lets chuck any reasoning out the door and just thr...Lets chuck any reasoning out the door and just throw insults. Worked for someone once who someone was slagging off and his reply to finding this out was, "When they start slagging you off its them that has the problem, not you."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-79411937728644959312014-03-19T23:02:54.359+00:002014-03-19T23:02:54.359+00:00Please could you define what you think a vigorous ...Please could you define what you think a vigorous medical examination is because I can assure you it won't be what the vet does at Crufts to pass dogs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-69507076393691012232014-03-19T22:59:28.484+00:002014-03-19T22:59:28.484+00:00Barbara, he's in the merchant navy not the Roy...Barbara, he's in the merchant navy not the Royal Navy. He works for BP, commercial navy not the Royal Navy.<br /><br />PLease read the comment again.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-33483923328858305542014-03-18T04:13:41.567+00:002014-03-18T04:13:41.567+00:00never read such a load of rubbish in my life, bree...never read such a load of rubbish in my life, breeders are trying to get rid of exageration in extreem but it will take time, It is just unfortunate that the judge on the day put up an exagerated hound, But of course super gob sees it as a chance to blow her trumpet, likes to be center of attention doesnt she.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-37627777307486134072014-03-16T16:32:52.274+00:002014-03-16T16:32:52.274+00:00If my mams miniature dachshund had longer legs she...If my mams miniature dachshund had longer legs she would have lived a few months more as she had a non malignant growth on her mammory glands which scraped on floor, ironic as apart from that she was quite happy, the vet wouldn't remove it as she was 15 and deemed too old for opAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-58370885414639947002014-03-16T00:24:53.616+00:002014-03-16T00:24:53.616+00:00But the government will not deal with an individua...But the government will not deal with an individual issue within the armed forces, but may decide that more guidance, is needed in certain areas, or policy changes, but aren't responsible for every individual decision of it's employees. The armed forces are still very homophobic for example. If complaints are received, after investigation judges can be censured and fined.Barbaranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-84534134043029577772014-03-15T11:25:01.955+00:002014-03-15T11:25:01.955+00:00"You need to finally understand that a Basset..."You need to finally understand that a Basset Hound has to be totally different from that subspecies of Normand Basset Artesien." I have great understanding of the breed, I used to go hunting with my basset before he passed, and let me tell you that Banana would NEVER be able to keep up with him.<br /><br />He was more like an Artesian, but was a full blooded basset. He had less wrinkles and loose skin, he could actually see clearly and was higher from the ground (so his belly didn't drag like this poor dog's would on anything more than flat ground, let alone woodland). He could easily carry on covering ground, including thick woodland all day, and I would tire well before he would. <br /><br />Let me tell you what would happen if I took Bannana out to hunt the same places I took my dog. Firstly, as soon as we had to go over any kind of debris like branches or twigs, they would snag and likely cut her skin, then after around 30 mins/ 1 hour of tracking, she would then tire, but worse than that due to the nature of the basset she would want to continue, but would not be able too due to exhaustion and likely joint pain. If I did this with her every day, the same as I did with my basset, she would never cover as much ground, and she would also likely develop severe joint problems quickly, due to the heavy weight on such short legs and the impact of jumping on logs and uneven ground. I can tell you the only reasons I had to take my dog to the Vets were for his jabs, flea and wormer, and to be put to sleep after a severe RTA. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-17603772268299156972014-03-15T10:22:19.660+00:002014-03-15T10:22:19.660+00:00Thea Moric, have a close look at the Albany Bs. T...Thea Moric, have a close look at the Albany Bs. They are a working pack, they hunt for hours in different terrain. Banana most certainly could do it for say half an hour but she would break down, a) because of conformation and probably b) lack of stamina. A hound needs to be agile, fit, properly equipped to function. Compare the bone, ear length, amount of loose skin, EYES(!!) on banana and the Albanies. Banana is well equipped to trot around the ring and then back into her crate/bench. Albanies are well equipped to run for hours and hours and hours, up hill, down dale, wooded, stubble fields. As for feet. Feet can be difficult. In my breed flat hare feet are ahborrant because the breed needs well feather, well padded feet to give them spring and protect the bones. However in other breeds, the Albanies have more open, not flat, feet that serve them well, Bananas are fat, wrinkly and because of the excess skin and bone density she will find it difficult to maintain a long period of running, give voice, scent (because she will trip over her too long ear leathers), she will break down and not only suffer that day but possible for days to come. Her eyes would cause great suffering if she were running in brush, stubble fields (the dust therefrom), because they are wide open for seed heads, pollen, etc etc because of the disastrous shape of them. That is just plain unkind to breed a dog with that distortion, really unkind. Breeding fit for function to breed standard is to maintain the quality of the dog to enable to be as good a dog as he can be if he was given the opportunity to work. The A's can, some of the show stock most definitely could not. All dogs are a joy regardless of their function and for whatever reason humans have moulded them into, but some of those moulds are cruel, careless and inmho sick. Sorry but that is how I feel about gross exaggeration.Georginanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-24372969763529906262014-03-15T02:01:51.857+00:002014-03-15T02:01:51.857+00:00https://scontent-a-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash2/t...https://scontent-a-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash2/t31.0-8/s720x720/462506_10200294515863650_1428477482_o.jpg<br />Bear rarely sits with both legs under him(I'm not even sure if he comfortably can). He usually has one legs tucked under and the other foot placed flat on the ground instead of the usual sit position which is with both feet flat on the ground like this <br />https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-wY57UJldQ3k/UXyt0uvXFXI/AAAAAAAAAGY/eJPz7oc57uE/s553-no/IMG_0823.JPG (my dog Brandi sits normally)<br /><br />Despite his kneecaps occasionally popping out(since it's grade 2 luxation it isn't always out). He will run and skip/hop because his knee is popped out. He still will beg at the table if he can, he jumps up on the couch and on chairs, he know the trick roll over. He is willing to turn on command whereas my Carolina Dog with a normal length back won't. He doesn't realize he is hurting himself. Just because he can do these things doesn't mean he doesn't have issues. He takes joint supplements and will sometimes Scream like the dickens if you grab hold of his knees for any reason. Dogs will unknowingly choke themselves to death on a collar. Just because he can do things doesn't make me feel any better. I'd feel better if he had legs that were the proper length for his body.Dogs Living +Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14020471845692733005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-4209347189724276292014-03-14T23:48:51.741+00:002014-03-14T23:48:51.741+00:00I live in America though. Bear is ctive I guess. H...I live in America though. Bear is ctive I guess. He likes playing fetch. He doesn't really like walks. He had 2 homes before us and they let his nails get overgrown. We have trimmed what we could, but they are still long. It is distressing to me especially since he has luxating patellas. Luxating patellas+overgrown nails= ouchies. Especially when it was getting cold out his joints don't feel well and he gets cold.<br />We went on the longest walk we have been on in quite some time yesterday. We ran about half a block. He showed interest I haven't seen in a long time. Typically he only wants to walk if our other dog was with us. This time he wanted to explore and run. I would give anything to give him more Beagle like legs. As with the Basset it may do him a bit of good. His would be a but more proportional at least and maybe he would stop tripping over curbs.<br />YES he trips over curbs his legs are so short he trips sometimes.<br />Dogs Living +Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14020471845692733005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-25455414202165985602014-03-14T23:46:07.752+00:002014-03-14T23:46:07.752+00:00The beauty of a breed is in its particularity in c...The beauty of a breed is in its particularity in compliance with the Standard. <br /><br />And isn't that exactly the problems here? Everyone has a different idea of beauty! And quite frankly, Banana is a grotesque specimen of canine beauty. But that's just my opinion. Although, I suspect the poor animal will be riddled with health problems too. But I guess according to your moral fibre, as long as he meets the ideological warped standard then his health and welfare is not important? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-6462821231242602212014-03-13T23:26:01.768+00:002014-03-13T23:26:01.768+00:00Banana is a wonderful dog, everyone was able to wa...Banana is a wonderful dog, everyone was able to watch online the beauty of its proportions, the right height, the harmony of his agile movement, the powerful bone structure that allows this dog the necessary thrust for long walks in the country! You need to finally understand that a Basset Hound has to be totally different from that subspecies of Normand Basset Artesien you have posted below. Look at the feet of those horrible dogs, fully open , look at the chest totally inadequate, look at the ears too short for the work that this dog must do! Do you think that such a dog can move better? Be objective once and for all! The beauty of a breed is in its particularity, in compliance with the Standard. This does not exclude that it may be a perfectly healthy dog ! This dog was subjected to a rigorous medical examination before receiving the Best of Breed, just to ensure that it is a sound and perfectly healthy one. You have to put an end to this nonsense, and look at the real health problems of dogs. Thea MoricAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-19652041717522154292014-03-13T22:11:44.373+00:002014-03-13T22:11:44.373+00:00A common mistake getting entropian mixed up with e...A common mistake getting entropian mixed up with ectropian. The dog most certainly has ectropian and it would an extreme comment to try and deny this fact. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-30974100489808442272014-03-13T12:24:20.339+00:002014-03-13T12:24:20.339+00:00The dog may not have entropian, but he most defini...The dog may not have entropian, but he most definitely does suffer from *ectropian* - the turning out of the lower lids. As indeed do most show Bassets because the standard still calls for a "lozenge-shaped" eye.<br />JemimaJemima Harrisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05092892697145388048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-78985490036554317112014-03-13T11:21:23.447+00:002014-03-13T11:21:23.447+00:00I have read somewhere that the dog does not ...I have read somewhere that the dog does not have entropian ; also that the dog in question was passed by the vets :: I do hope that your internet diagnosis is not an outlandish claim ! You claim the breeders are extreme :: I would like to know how some of you think your outlandish comments are not extreme ! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-15682782150763104492014-03-12T19:59:06.579+00:002014-03-12T19:59:06.579+00:00Oh dear anon 11:35, you say, "Breeders will n...Oh dear anon 11:35, you say, "Breeders will not be churning out basset of this type overnight if at all" - so if this particular basset was unusual surely the judge is wrong to have awarded BOB sending it thro' to the group? If we listen to what you say then how can that judge justify any comments re breed type? Thankfully breeders will not be doing as you say because whilst the basset is probably a delightful character and lovely to live with, it's physical properties are detrimental to it's long term well being. You say "stop attacking breeders that are at least trying to breed to a standard as set by their breed club", all breed standards are directed by the Kennel Club, but it is these breed standards that are causing the travesty as shown above. People are taking standards to extremes and are getting away with it because they will try any trick in the book to be noticed in order to win. I had previously said that good kind breeders would not breed to extreme and most certainly would not exhibit such a dog in a public forum. They have more ethics, respect and love for their dogs to do such a reckless thing. I feel that you are being overly critical when in reality you want exactly what the rest of us want for the future, happy healthy different types of dogs that share our lives. Your grandchildren will have purebred dogs in their lives if you can lobby the KC to start putting dogs first and not their bank account.Georginanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-56452177268492705732014-03-12T18:35:20.779+00:002014-03-12T18:35:20.779+00:00'give me a purebred over a designer dog anyday...'give me a purebred over a designer dog anyday'<br /><br />Er, who is it who is really being naive here? You.<br /><br />If you really had any idea about the issues here you would understand that pedigree dogs will not survive indefinitely. And that the people actually responsible for that are the breeders who continue to behave as if the last 50 years scientific and genetic discoveries have never happened!<br /><br />My dear, blame the people responsible for this travesty, the breeders and sheep who willingly buy into the clap trap and support breeding to some flawed aesthetic blueprint like some ideological shrine.<br /><br />Don't blame the people who actually give a damn about the welfare of these animals who suffer so you can let your grandchildren have an effin' pedigree dog! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com