tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post6380115769781575764..comments2024-03-20T17:32:35.238+00:00Comments on Pedigree Dogs Exposed - The Blog: Frenchies: breathtakingJemima Harrisonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05092892697145388048noreply@blogger.comBlogger138125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-10518878670006734872014-01-04T09:05:05.536+00:002014-01-04T09:05:05.536+00:00Waiting on the official report... imminent!Waiting on the official report... imminent!Jemima Harrisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05092892697145388048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-305412940315616502014-01-04T03:05:22.573+00:002014-01-04T03:05:22.573+00:00No follow up post for building better brachycephal...No follow up post for building better brachycephalics?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-33549833523783637742013-11-30T10:40:08.400+00:002013-11-30T10:40:08.400+00:00I see it all the time as well. English bulldogs an...I see it all the time as well. English bulldogs and pugs too. Brachycephalic breeds seem to be VERY popular in advertising and as motifs on decorations (saw lots just on a trip through town). Had a happy surprise the other day though, when I saw a greyhound lamp (they had a bulldog one too...) and a pillow with the UK flag and a bloodhound puppy of all things, on the flag.<br /><br />And the frenchie in particular just boomsploded in popularity in 2007. I don't know about the US and UK, but in Sweden, their registration numbers basically doubled year after year from 2007 on. 2005 and earlier, hardly anyone knew what they were and they were just an ugly little weird-looking dog.<br />Too bad for the frenchie, that changed.Frida Nyberghttp://zanizaila.wix.com/fridanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-41834822215784865892013-11-26T19:50:39.513+00:002013-11-26T19:50:39.513+00:00Anonymous 09:01, quoted from the KC breed standard...Anonymous 09:01, quoted from the KC breed standard for all the Poodles, " Coat: Very profuse and dense of good hard texture. All short hair close, thick and curly."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-91750619532874810872013-11-26T09:01:30.120+00:002013-11-26T09:01:30.120+00:00Poodles don't really have dense coats.& un...Poodles don't really have dense coats.& unless they are terribly matted are not hard to clip ( you can't get clipper lines on a poodle & the clippers run through the coat easily ) they dry quite quickly too.<br /><br /> Its the crosses with lhasa's and spaniels that have thick coats , with undercoat that mats up Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-6644681942956693832013-11-26T08:54:20.012+00:002013-11-26T08:54:20.012+00:00Believe me people do , when they get it neutered a...Believe me people do , when they get it neutered at 5 months because they " don't like boy things" & leave all the care to their 9 year old then take it to a groomers demanding its mats be painfully pulled out so it still looks like a "teddy bear" ( can't clip it , it wouldnt be cute ) it is because the kid wanted a toy that moves. They don't actually want a dog that has free will & bad habitsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-34993645087144390422013-11-26T08:48:05.762+00:002013-11-26T08:48:05.762+00:00Don't even get me started on show english cock...Don't even get me started on show english cockers with their horribly thick greasy coats.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-750802873932281302013-11-25T16:33:46.652+00:002013-11-25T16:33:46.652+00:00"I don't like throwing around the word dw..."I don't like throwing around the word dwarfism and mutation, with the inherent assumption that the mutation is deleterious."<br /><br />In the absence of the mutation deleterious health effects from the mutation are not possible in an individual dog or any of its offspring.<br />PipedreamFarmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15689373141070251132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-18936798626909879142013-11-25T16:27:22.267+00:002013-11-25T16:27:22.267+00:00Dogs that do not have the key gene which turns on ...Dogs that do not have the key gene which turns on this mutation are not affected. Dogs that have the key gene are affected.<br /><br />*****This means there is an on/off switch for the mutation and dogs with the mutation can and do pass this mutation onto their offspring.******<br /><br />How each dog is impacted by the mutation can vary; this is true even for simple genetic mutations like the autosomal recessive mutation CEA. Dogs can be CEA affected and never have diminished sight which is great for that individual dog but one would never want to breed this affected dog. <br /><br />When it come to genetic mutations one must consider the impact on the entire gene pool not just the individual dog.PipedreamFarmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15689373141070251132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-8778875844838609062013-11-24T00:44:15.277+00:002013-11-24T00:44:15.277+00:00I have heard of people buying a cockapoo because t...I have heard of people buying a cockapoo because their first dog was a pure cocker spaniel and its coat was too much!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-71947013628012093102013-11-23T20:48:10.640+00:002013-11-23T20:48:10.640+00:00Looking the length of the cranium seems longer eno...Looking the length of the cranium seems longer enough than the width of the cranium, so I don't think this wild canid is brachycephalic. Found this link about them http://www.arkive.org/bush-dog/speothos-venaticus/#image-G131821.html. The head is very close to the badger and in some they look almost fox like.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-79129148803086126032013-11-23T20:14:24.036+00:002013-11-23T20:14:24.036+00:00There are three genetic variations in the dog popu...There are three genetic variations in the dog population that can be called 'dwarfism'. The Frenchie has two of them, but not the third . . . which the basset has. <br /><br />See<br />http://www.border-wars.com/2011/05/dwarf-dogs.html<br /><br />I don't like throwing around the word dwarfism and mutation, with the inherent assumption that the mutation is deleterious. Many species have evolved in ways that make them smaller (the 'pygmy' species), sometimes through one or a couple of mutations. In some cases this has improved their survival rates in nature. With dogs, many of the small terriers have very long life expectancies, and relatively few health problems, apart from being feisty and accident prone ;-) Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14389321571689128858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-52976749270853473492013-11-23T19:45:21.050+00:002013-11-23T19:45:21.050+00:00List of brachycephalic dog breeds
Affenpinscher
Am...List of brachycephalic dog breeds<br />Affenpinscher<br />American Bulldog<br />American Cocker Spaniel<br />American Pit Bull Terrier<br />American Staffordshire Terrier<br />Boston Terrier<br />Boxer<br />Brussels Griffon<br />Bulldog<br />Bullmastiff<br />Cane Corso<br />King Charles Spaniel<br />Chihuahua (apple-headed)<br />Chow Chow<br />Dogo Argentino<br />Dogue de Bordeaux<br />French Bulldog<br />Japanese Chin<br />Lhasa Apso<br />Neapolitan Mastiff<br />Newfoundland<br />Pekingese<br />Presa Canario<br />Pug<br />Shar-Pei<br />Shih Tzu<br />Tibetan SpanielAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-3750443903182574822013-11-23T19:39:07.173+00:002013-11-23T19:39:07.173+00:00I think the Bush Dog is brachycephalic ... LINK TO...I think the Bush Dog is brachycephalic ... LINK TO PICTUER OF SKULL<br /> https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=bush+dog+skull&rlz=1C1CHFX_en-GBGB452GB453&espv=210&es_sm=93&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=4gKRUo6tJIGThQenloDICw&ved=0CDEQsAQ&biw=1366&bih=652#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=rAgnDAR2LiCgUM%3A%3BiffV9EDSn-WCNM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.takingthelead.co.uk%252Fgallery%252Falbums%252Fuploads%252FAnatomy%252Fnormal_bush-dog-skull-lg.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.takingthelead.co.uk%252Fgallery%252Fdisplayimage.php%253Falbum%253D4%2526pos%253D14%3B399%3B251Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-3947177392307675132013-11-23T16:05:51.481+00:002013-11-23T16:05:51.481+00:00Just because there are two sides, doesn't mean...Just because there are two sides, doesn't mean the ideal must lie somewhere in the middle (the golden mean fallacy.)<br /><br />You could argue that the pedigree dog show people are one extreme, the animal rights people are another extreme, and the moderate middle are the reformers. The AR would see the reformers as the polar opposite to them, as would the show people. It's all a question of perspective.Which is why it's not necessarily a useful argument. <br /><br />You'd need to pinpoint where in the 'middle' you want to stand, and for which issues.<br /><br />Otherwise you end up with just a toothless, general injuction to 'be polite'. Politeness is one strategy, but not the only strategy, and it's so vague as to be easily twisted. Even having the discussion about stenotic nares is probably offensive to someone, no matter how civil or unemotional people are about them. <br /><br />If someone's doing something wrong, it's not being negative/a bad sport to call them on it. It's being productive. <br /><br />And sensationalism, provided it doesn't stray into falsehood, is a legitimate tool to get people interested in an issue, to catch them and educate them. Dickens was pure sensationalism, and his writing is still influencing how people think about social justice. <br /><br />Plenty of people at the time wrote worthy pamphlets on workhouses, child abuse, poverty- what we remember is 'Please sir, I want some more'. The idea of it being an unforgivable sin for a starving child to want more food. That's the power of sensationalism. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-14119027412855336112013-11-23T15:20:09.183+00:002013-11-23T15:20:09.183+00:00Nina, I meant the link for you not myself,Anonymou...Nina, I meant the link for you not myself,Anonymous 11:43.<br />Please read this article at http://www.pawpeds.com/pawacademy/general/naturalprotection/<br />Hopefully it will shed some light on what I was trying to say. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-43027966745392921412013-11-23T14:53:06.727+00:002013-11-23T14:53:06.727+00:00Nobody buys a live dog when what they really want ...Nobody buys a live dog when what they really want is a stuffed toy. Maybe what you mean is that people who buy fluffy dogs tend to be people who ignore the real exercise and action needs of their pets, and expect their pets to fufill whatever expatations the owner projects onto the pet?<br /><br />That is NOT limited to peole who buy fluffy dogs. Boyfriends and girlfriends do that to each other. Parents and children often expect the other to conform to their assumptions about what people in a certain role should have.<br /><br />People often see the role but not the person/pet under it.<br /><br />People buy a puppy to be a guard dog - and then expect it to be mean. Other people buy a puppy as a pet for their children and expect the dog to be good with their children. Yet both puppies could be from the same litter.<br /><br />Advise from the All Creatures Great and Small series: "Before you buy the calf, take a good long look at the cow".<br /><br />In inbred animals, it is most important to know the parents and grandparents. In mutts, inherited traits are still there, but they are more heterogenic and so less extreme.<br /><br />People expect poodles owners to be different from pitbull owners, and both of these to be different from collie or beagle owners. Is there any truth in these beliefs?<br /><br />I am not a dog groomer, but many people who have groomed their own purebred have chosen a mix for their next dog, and been happier with the ease of grooming in the mix. <br /><br />Of course, many people love playing with their dog's hair/coat and ease of grooming is not as important to them as being able to get the results they want.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-54656249619110285912013-11-23T14:49:00.232+00:002013-11-23T14:49:00.232+00:00When I said selection away from defect I should o...When I said selection away from defect I should of said selection away from exaggeration, you could argue in some cases they are the same thing.<br />I have taken a look a Hinnies and Mules and you can see genetic variation but no real exaggeration, so you reinforce the fact that the egg will select away from exaggeration even when matings are done between animals that would not normally mate with each other in the wild state.Genetic variation (not exaggeration) is what you will get when you give the egg more genetic choice, its a very good survival tactic.<br />The two examples you give though are crosses that in most cases produce sterile offspring due to being different species. Breeding with domestic dogs, although there are closed off gene pools (pure breeds) all domestic dogs are the same species I believe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-7009346168108513712013-11-23T14:17:26.412+00:002013-11-23T14:17:26.412+00:00Having had and have Poodles and Poodle crosses in...Having had and have Poodles and Poodle crosses in my experience of keeping both the Poodles coat is the harder to maintain than the cross. In most crosses with the Poodle the coat is less dense making it easier to clip and in some of the crosses no trimming is needed because genetically they have taken after the dog crossed with, that the coat only grows to a short length.<br />In my experience most people like the non moulting aspect and statistical chance of a healthier dog. In my experience people in general are slowly getting more savvy and educated in aquiring a puppy and unfortanately most breeders do not give full disclosure about their breed or cross breed, this goes across the board from the top show breeders to the puppy farming breeders. The way forward is to expose this factor to potential buyers, education the public in buying a puppy will be the main driving force in eradicating bad breeders be that puppy farmers or show breeders breeding dogs with exaggerations that have no function other than the cute factor and predispose the dog to serious health issues.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-77931425028749078912013-11-23T12:41:18.963+00:002013-11-23T12:41:18.963+00:00the majority of poodle crosses are bought because ...the majority of poodle crosses are bought because people want a stuffed toy with a cute name , most owners don't bother grooming them & their coats are much harder to manage than a purebred poodle.<br /><br />Its also not compulsory to clip a poodle in a traditional trimAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-17310754461208818632013-11-23T12:09:44.729+00:002013-11-23T12:09:44.729+00:00Please read the article at this link http://www.pa...Please read the article at this link http://www.pawpeds.com/pawacademy/general/naturalprotection/ <br />It is believed by geneticists that the egg has the ability to select.<br />Fertility is one of the things thrown aside by the pure breeders in many species and they now reap what they have sown. Fertility is the foundation of breeding, forsake at your peril.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-52704153580645101552013-11-23T12:05:42.739+00:002013-11-23T12:05:42.739+00:00Anonymous 11.43 please take a look at the article ...Anonymous 11.43 please take a look at the article at this link http://www.pawpeds.com/pawacademy/general/naturalprotection/<br />You don't need a concious ability for selection to happen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-56786590569566909252013-11-23T11:38:54.224+00:002013-11-23T11:38:54.224+00:00If you read the Schoenebeck (BMP3) article careful...If you read the Schoenebeck (BMP3) article carefully, it supports the concept that brachycephalic tendencies fall alont a gradient. Look, especially at figure 1, which puts breeds on a scale of increasing brachycephaly. Note also the range bars on different breeds. Some breeds, notably the Boston and Rotti, have a long downward extension on the range bars, suggesting the genes for longer muzzles are present in the breed population.<br />Sure, they've identified some genes. But the way those genes are expressed is not a simple on/off switch that makes a dog brachy or not. Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14389321571689128858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-28096818183049341992013-11-23T01:02:07.152+00:002013-11-23T01:02:07.152+00:00dogbreedinfo.com has photos of hybrid/crossbred Fr...dogbreedinfo.com has photos of hybrid/crossbred Frenchies. (no it isn't my site)<br /><br />Most of the Frenchie crosses have been crossed with another snub-nosed dog - and you can clearly see that the crosses are half Frenchie!<br /><br />The Frenchie/ Min Pin hybrids don't look so Frenchie. The photos of the Frengles (scroll on the site, there are several photos) don't look too Frenchie because they aren't snub-nosed. <br /><br />It is weird how the beagle/pug (puggle) dogs look so different from the beagle/Frenchie (frengle) dogs.<br /><br />The pinched nares come through to some of the crossbreds - but not so extreme as the ones here on PDE blog. Some of the hybrid Frenchies, who are part other bulldog, have a better nose.<br /><br />There is a Frenchie/Pug photo too.<br /><br />And other hybrids too. Photos of Cavalier King Charles Spaniels/ Poodle (cavapoo), and CKCS/ bichon frise (cavachon).<br /><br />--------------------------------------<br />Choose your poison. (joke)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-23288246200109208012013-11-23T00:02:41.648+00:002013-11-23T00:02:41.648+00:00So I've read on Yahoo that the cava-poo-chon i...So I've read on Yahoo that the cava-poo-chon is all over the internet now. And I've seen 3 goldendoodles today - 2 different owners.<br /><br />What would be the most popular lover for a Frenchie?<br /><br />People like poodle mixes because they don't usually shed much, and because they are poodles without being poodles. They have the soft hair, smarts, and playfulness of the poodle, without the expatations of sylish grooming that the public expects of poodles, <br /><br />and the owner doesn't have to say "I own a poodle". they are great dogs, but there is often a stigma about being a poodle owner, that the person is a fashion snob. A doodle doesn't have that "I care too much about my looks" stigma that people often give purebred poodles.<br /><br />So what would be a good match for a French Bulldog?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com