tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post5395438651592140843..comments2024-03-20T17:32:35.238+00:00Comments on Pedigree Dogs Exposed - The Blog: "Crock of shit"Jemima Harrisonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05092892697145388048noreply@blogger.comBlogger85125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-6180020110682799552013-03-19T01:43:25.808+00:002013-03-19T01:43:25.808+00:00To me, the Olde English Bulldogge is a vast improv...To me, the Olde English Bulldogge is a vast improvement over the ones in the Crufts showing.<br /><br />I will never understand how breeders could have taken such a magnificent breed and turned it into such a mess, all for their own vanity, pride and wallet. I do NOT mean just the bulldog either. The list has gotten too long to type out.<br />suziqnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-11997624358995996212013-03-15T19:16:14.075+00:002013-03-15T19:16:14.075+00:00Well, thanks to Jemima, this little rat is informe...Well, thanks to Jemima, this little rat is informed on the awful health status of many bulldogs.<br /><br />Like many other rats, I desire to cuddle and enjoy the critters I live with and love. I love bulldogs. They are by far one of my most favorite breeds. They're full of personality.<br /><br />I think many of them look cute and have amazing temperaments. But I will not get one. Why? I want to have long friendships with my furry friends and not have to lose them prematurely to some health issue caused by bad genes and body structure.<br /><br />It's quite a shame, because I love bulldogs so much, but because I don't want the potential heartache of early death or excessive vet bills, I'll have to settle for more moderate breeds that live longer, but whose personalities are not the same as the bulldog's unique character.<br /><br />And that is precisely what we are doing. If more people know the heartache a breed may cause due to a tragically short life, fewer extreme dogs are sold. That's why us rats are not as popular as dogs. We're much cuddlier and have just as much love, but we only live a few years.<br /><br />Oh, I didn't realize I was dirty. I'll go groom myself, then. We're normally very clean critters, you know.Little Brown Ratnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-70911604157032369642013-03-15T17:10:09.005+00:002013-03-15T17:10:09.005+00:00I am surprised that Bestuvall has not replied to t...I am surprised that Bestuvall has not replied to this, but assume she must know what she is talking about, being a bull terrier breeder based in the US as well as an AKC judge? <br />Or maybe that was a throw away line ... <br />I still can't find anything more online only various kennels breeding The Olde English. Funny they are allowed to continue if the dogs are illegal! ValChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11486595734079952660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-46503909041923172772013-03-14T23:25:13.414+00:002013-03-14T23:25:13.414+00:00Ian, your Bulldog is just lovely. I am keeping my ...Ian, your Bulldog is just lovely. I am keeping my hopes high that more bulldog breeders will start breeding bulldogs like yours. (I really hope.)<br />Cheers!<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-80774094254913362892013-03-13T19:47:15.849+00:002013-03-13T19:47:15.849+00:00Plenty of wealthy Chavs out there. You can't b...Plenty of wealthy Chavs out there. You can't buy class or taste though eh? Or brains...<br /><br />However, just because a Bulldog is expensive to insure doesn't make it a valuable asset! it is because the breed of dog is well known to require a large amount of veterinary care throughout it's life. I still can 't believe people actually buy these dog's. Talk about being ripped off....or being gullible.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-29863887162746579682013-03-13T16:43:12.516+00:002013-03-13T16:43:12.516+00:00I just want people to stop breeding dogs who are p...I just want people to stop breeding dogs who are physically deformed, who suffer unnecessarily and for the breeders to take some responsibility for their actions rather than keep making excuses.<br /><br />Maybe then I'll stop coming on here and being rude. It is upsetting for people who care about the welfare of dogs to see people making excuses for the Brachycephalic breed's pathetic existence. Empathy? Go look that word up!<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-19646113685071152052013-03-13T16:07:07.521+00:002013-03-13T16:07:07.521+00:00bestuvall, I live in the States and have not heard...bestuvall, I live in the States and have not heard of that policy. Do you have more information? Most states don't have BSL, and those that do are generally directed at APBT's. Normally, you need a specific reason to confiscate a dog here. Bethnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-55520530210887495992013-03-13T14:18:36.810+00:002013-03-13T14:18:36.810+00:00Could you provide a link to substantiate that clai...Could you provide a link to substantiate that claim please Bestuval. I have been looking online and haven't found anything to suggest that this is so but that may well be my inadequate search abilities!! I have no affinities to Bulldogs of a ny type but through curiosity had a look after Beth's comment and was pleasantly surprised by the photos I saw. Photos are one thing of course and reality another but I thought some of them appeared to be very handsome animals with much better noses less skin folds and good legs, no idea on temperament though. One dog in particular I would happily have given a home to.ValChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11486595734079952660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-65978298401822940692013-03-13T05:56:05.155+00:002013-03-13T05:56:05.155+00:00most are illegal in many places in the USA and are...most are illegal in many places in the USA and are confiscated and killed when foundbestuvallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16010527907760825413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-81948930798659501282013-03-12T23:02:51.745+00:002013-03-12T23:02:51.745+00:00Thanks for the link Jemima, thoroughly enjoyed tha...Thanks for the link Jemima, thoroughly enjoyed that so far.........think we can be fairly certain which ones stood a chance against the bull (why anyone would think of such a barbaric activity is beyond me, thank goodness that is in the past).<br /><br />Some are indeed quite freaky and others a superb example of what I've been referring to, strikes me that every one of those dogs bodies appeared longer, leaner and more masculine than anything seen today.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-87781428135412172612013-03-12T21:11:00.129+00:002013-03-12T21:11:00.129+00:00Here's a great selection of historical picture...Here's a great selection of historical pictures of Bulldogs. Some are real shockers - but some provide a great template for what the modern dog could be.<br /><br />http://smg.beta.photobucket.com/user/Pietoro/library/Dog%20Breed%20Historical%20Pictures/Bulldog<br /><br />JemimaJemima Harrisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05092892697145388048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-71042628865169476052013-03-12T20:44:33.281+00:002013-03-12T20:44:33.281+00:00Are you serious, the topic is dogs and their healt...Are you serious, the topic is dogs and their health and welfare not grannies......................... No wonder some of them are in the state they are really!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-6743898273209045782013-03-12T19:34:41.724+00:002013-03-12T19:34:41.724+00:00Thanks for the link.........how saddening and depr...Thanks for the link.........how saddening and depressing that there has been no improvement for the breed, obviously I was referring to the dog of yesteryear that was capable of doing the job it was bred for!!!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-1978879058806166812013-03-12T19:19:41.940+00:002013-03-12T19:19:41.940+00:00Hi Ian, it is very pleasing to hear that news abou...Hi Ian, it is very pleasing to hear that news about bulldogs, what is deeply saddening and obviously jemimas bug bear is that those dogs that are presented in the showring are meant to represent the very best of the breed, it is the show breeders/exhibitors that are letting the breed down and them alone!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-73478979595706664532013-03-12T18:48:35.719+00:002013-03-12T18:48:35.719+00:00Because they think that if the dog doesn't has...Because they think that if the dog doesn't has a smushed-in face and is covered with wrinkles, it's not a bulldog.<br /><br />I wonder who decided that? The modern french and english bulldogs are only recent freak show creations, and have nothing to do with the baiting dogs of the past.<br /><br />A *real* bulldog is an athletic, functional animal that can work all day if it needs to.<br /><br />Oh and, I have a Mallorcan bulldog. Does that count? (Probably not, because he can breathe and run just fine.)Frida Nyberghttp://zanizaila.wix.com/fridanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-80946313313820809262013-03-12T12:52:51.952+00:002013-03-12T12:52:51.952+00:00"what WAS wrong with the bulldog of yesteryea..."what WAS wrong with the bulldog of yesteryear? "<br /><br />This, perhaps? <br /><br />http://www.bulldogsofbaltimore.com/images/bulldog_university_images/bulldog_history_pic1.jpgAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-35758175231838308512013-03-12T08:47:05.586+00:002013-03-12T08:47:05.586+00:00Jemima,
Thanks for your comments on my boy.
I ...Jemima,<br /><br />Thanks for your comments on my boy. <br /><br />I won't be showing him as it does not benefit him; he would much prefer I take him for a walk around the lake or in the woods with his "best friend" a golden retreiver. <br /><br />My boy is the tip of the iceberg with Bulldogs - there are lots of other athletic Bulldogs bred by breeders who care and are doing their best to improve the breed. <br /><br />Those breeders and owners who are striving for a better Bulldog are frankly undermined when you write sweeping comments and generalisations like the following from your previous article:<br /> <br />"But let's not pretend that Bulldogs are anything other than a gross parody of what a dog should be"<br /><br />That angers me (as a humble pet owner) and it does no justice to the breeders who strive to breed better dogs. <br /><br />It erodes your credability to make such rash unfounded comments and simultaneously riles the breeders who you are trying to get through to. After reading such a comment do you expect them to listen to your cause and reason?? What kind of reaction do you expect? or was your mandate simply to get a reaction?<br /><br />Have a look deeper into the breed (outside of the narrow window of the show ring) - there are many good dogs and breeders, ask yourself why those dogs are not at shows.... but I emplore you stop putting down the breed as a whole, it does no one any favours.<br /><br />You have a unique platform from which to aid in the improvemnet in many breeds. Hold up champions of what you think breeders should be aiming for rather than writing the breed off and having a cheap pop at the few whom you think have it wrong.<br /><br />Thanks,<br /><br />Ian<br /><br /><br />IDRnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-80782232803868506892013-03-12T06:24:15.238+00:002013-03-12T06:24:15.238+00:00Thanks for sharing what you would like to see our ...Thanks for sharing what you would like to see our grandmas do. The world is a wide and wonderfully diverse place, apparently.<br /><br />Seriously though, if my granny was chasing a ball around in the snow, I think whether or not she was panting would be the least of my worries.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-46387561644849349972013-03-12T00:28:19.137+00:002013-03-12T00:28:19.137+00:00Jemima, I'm wondering what you think of the Am...Jemima, I'm wondering what you think of the American dog called the Olde English Bulldogge? They seem to have somewhat restored the look of the older bull dog, and the couple of breeder sites I looked at seem to health test, though it appears there are some of the same issues cropping up with a creep towards more extreme type that we see with the traditional English Bulldog.<br /><br />I'm not posting any links because I don't want to associate any breeders with the site without their knowledge. Apparently their dogs all can free whelp, have muzzles, no screw tails, etc.Bethnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-11636588797547384412013-03-11T22:40:58.340+00:002013-03-11T22:40:58.340+00:00newbandman, again with respect if my dogs breathed...newbandman, again with respect if my dogs breathed like that after a walk and a short ball-playing session on a cold snowy day I'd have them at the vet. That is not normal panting or breathing, and is really excessive for a day cold enough to have snow on the ground. Bethnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-42554314709901634772013-03-11T22:39:21.663+00:002013-03-11T22:39:21.663+00:00" but the more athletic type tend not to be s..." but the more athletic type tend not to be shown. " And therein is the issue, I think.<br /><br />Your bulldog is a lot closer to the old type, and I saw a bulldog like yours once around here (intact boy too) who could definitely run and play and didn't wheeze and huff. He had perhaps even a bit more muzzle than your guy. He was an impressive, powerful dog, much like yours. <br /><br />And I thought "Where are THESE bulldogs in the show ring?" <br /><br />I wish they would show the more athletic type. THAT should be what wins classes.Bethnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-70563316463141595112013-03-11T22:11:03.960+00:002013-03-11T22:11:03.960+00:00Much appreciated response :) Much appreciated response :) newbandmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05398714517765622258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-30895063589330576582013-03-11T21:21:29.297+00:002013-03-11T21:21:29.297+00:00That's one dog we're talking about. What h...That's one dog we're talking about. What happened to the "look at the bigger picture"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-53713539557231642452013-03-11T21:18:27.325+00:002013-03-11T21:18:27.325+00:00No i wasn't refering to you in that sense at a...No i wasn't refering to you in that sense at all and as i said previously i do know a lot of Bulldog owners and as with all breeds there is a cross section of owners. There are plenty of zero-class people with money out there and i do think the Bulldog had a run of being in fashion with some, not all obviously. I hear that Malamutes are fashionable now.. Buggered if i'd want to stuff one in a handbag!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-77335207152907926162013-03-11T21:11:40.060+00:002013-03-11T21:11:40.060+00:00My apologies for bracing for fall-out instead of g...My apologies for bracing for fall-out instead of going with the joke. I like to think i'm not attacking the people, i'm a dog person myself and i know the criticism is painful. You'll have to forgive me again for thinking that there is a long way too go with this breed yet. Certainly until they can breed naturally and they breathe freely.<br /><br />We all think our breeds are wonderful and we find it hard to believe that anyone could accuse us of doing anything detrimental to something we love so much.... Totally get that. But as someone who loves dogs i don't think i do the species any favours if i turn a blind eye and i don't say what i think.<br /><br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com