tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post1451679334732504844..comments2024-03-20T17:32:35.238+00:00Comments on Pedigree Dogs Exposed - The Blog: Mark + JakeJemima Harrisonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05092892697145388048noreply@blogger.comBlogger82125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-7634595927599671712013-06-11T02:25:44.412+01:002013-06-11T02:25:44.412+01:00I could understand people being upset.
Calling Cru...I could understand people being upset.<br />Calling Crufts a parade of mutants,is pretty much saying purebred dogs are mutants. How is his (Possible Saluki) mix breed less of a mutant then a purebred Saluki that would be at Crufts? Neither look like wolves.<br />I know you may say he didn't mean that,but that's what many people think,it isn't specified.Demiandogshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14783001289308199804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-4722700388010608962011-12-02T11:46:09.600+00:002011-12-02T11:46:09.600+00:00Jake is a gorgeous dog with excellent conformation...Jake is a gorgeous dog with excellent conformation. I'd be proud to go to an agility competition with him. Looks like he could run circles around most dogs. Also, a really pretty "look."S.K.Y.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10394626858056890715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-6773481646644819242011-10-21T22:21:56.555+01:002011-10-21T22:21:56.555+01:00To anon 18.14: It's just my experience of cou...To anon 18.14: It's just my experience of course but I have found that the majority of breed club members and committee members are involved in some way with showing or another dog sport. The input of pet owners is very valuable and I don't see a problem with having a companion club that's affiliated with the KC. Surely another one club won't do any harm - and it might actually do some good... I appreciate you may not think there is a point (and of course you are entitled to that opinion) but it certainly won't do any harm and the more people involved in taking the CKCS forward now can only be a good thing. There's no doubt that opening up communication channels is the way forward for all breeds.Annie Macfarlanehttp://www.braccoitalianoscotland.co.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-26296209899517003052011-10-20T18:14:49.410+01:002011-10-20T18:14:49.410+01:00With 10 CKCS clubs already in existence of which e...With 10 CKCS clubs already in existence of which each must have 10 - 12 Committee Memembers and 3 - 4 officers each that means over 150 people the KC consult with, add in that many of the ietms are then given out to members to feedback on (many have never been near a shown ring but are the pet owners that Ms Carter is on about) so what is teh point of yet another club?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-67189887491492121732011-10-20T18:12:12.892+01:002011-10-20T18:12:12.892+01:00Why breed clubs don't actively encourage pet o...Why breed clubs don't actively encourage pet owners join the club? <br /><br />People from all walks of life could be a tremendous source of fresh views and ideas!<br /><br />Is the image of breeds clubs still too "elitist" among ordinary dog owners?<br /><br /><br />-labpack-Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-6675658404797769552011-10-20T13:41:03.737+01:002011-10-20T13:41:03.737+01:00The percentage of KC registered dogs that are exhi...The percentage of KC registered dogs that are exhibited in shows is small, the percentage of breed club members that breed KC registered litters is small, but it is the breed club committees that the KC consult when they want information or advice about the breed, so in most breeds the influence of show breeders is far reaching, despite their relatively few numbers.<br /> <br />The pet buyers are the owners that are dealing with the health problems day by day, and so deserve not only to ask questions but also have a voice in decision making about the breed.<br /> <br />A group of Cavalier owners are in the process of setting up a Companion Cavalier Club and intend to apply for KC registration, so that they will automatically be included in consultations about the health of the breed. <br /> <br />Margaret CarterMargaret Carternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-3296115248903977712011-10-20T13:20:33.630+01:002011-10-20T13:20:33.630+01:00The RSPCA report independent?? its was a mash up ...The RSPCA report independent?? its was a mash up of other peoples work, quoting about breeds of dogs that arnt even in the UK, it was a like a school childs book report copied from a news paper review of the film of the book they were ment to have read!! The RSPCA made great claims about gathering data, but not even from vets in the UK, and did they ever do this.............. Like Mr Evans credability as a vet, it too is yet to be seen!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-2578361367846630822011-10-19T20:18:20.535+01:002011-10-19T20:18:20.535+01:00Well,I'll happily show pics of my healthy pedi...Well,I'll happily show pics of my healthy pedigree and cross-breeds and, just as a reminder, you tell us that only 2% of pedigree dogs are shown.....it is probably the "novices" that are buying the excess so it's quite pertinent that these questions are asked - and answered - but I don't ever see any responsible answers. I thought Jemima was speaking about PDE - not as an expert on Genetics and Dog Breeding....merely pointing out what the 3 independent reports had confirmed.. :-(Annie Macfarlanehttp://www.braccoitalianoscotland.co.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-64304387832335797442011-10-19T14:43:39.312+01:002011-10-19T14:43:39.312+01:00Anon of 04.30, did it ever occur to you that Jemim...Anon of 04.30, did it ever occur to you that Jemima perhaps was INVITED to speak because she is seen as someone who has 1) asked very pertinent questions about the manner in which pedigree breeding is being carried out and 2) along the road has gathered up rather a lot of information about it, and so is seen as someone with something to say? Commonly that is the reason people get invited to talk at conferences...<br />Also, why do you write untruth? The conference you are referring to was not an "animal rights" event, unless you see any questioning of biologically dubious practices that promote not health, but restrained function, in our dogs as animal rights activism? <br />Is that how you see it? If so, you certainly will have a lot of "animal rights" activity coming to knock on your door in the years ahead...<br /><br />Jemima is a journalist. She puts questions that should have been asked long ago. The depressing thing is that so few of you have any answers.Bodil Carlssonhttp://collievaenner.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-10936182261046756372011-10-19T12:03:52.656+01:002011-10-19T12:03:52.656+01:00Can Anon get her facts right?
Jemima does do her ...Can Anon get her facts right? <br />Jemima does do her research carefully. When she films a Cavalier with syringmyelia writhing in agony, she will also tell you what proportion of Cavaliers are thought to suffer from the condition (it was underestimated in the PDE film). And she doesnt just put up a photo of a dog jumping about happily and say this is a healthy dog, she will also ask about the prevalence of genetic and health problems in the breed and how many dogs are being tested - if there is testing available - and the statistical results from health surveys . Of course one cant do this for cross bred dogs of uncertain ancestry. This is something the opposition to PDE2 could learn from. They are wasting their time putting up photos of individual "happy and healthy dogs", with no information about the health of the breed generally and whether these particular dogs are free from known health problems in their breeds <br />Further Jemima didnt go to the HSUS as an expert on dog breeding, she was invited to speak as a film producer about the aftermath (reactions and changes) of the first PDE film. However given the amount of research she did in the two years before the film was first shown, she did acquire a great deal of knowledge about both genetics and dog breeding. I will be the first to say say that her knowledge and understanding of canine genetics is better than mine, and I'm a reasonably well educated dog breeder of KC registered dogs, and her general knowledge of canine health problems is broader than mine, because like many practical breeders I tend to focus on just two breeds (working springers and setters). Bur one can always fill her in with more detailed and up to date information about one's own breed , a lot more constructive than constant griping and negativitydalriachnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-87487387936738237392011-10-19T04:30:41.083+01:002011-10-19T04:30:41.083+01:00the same as she shows ONE photo of a pedigreed dog...the same as she shows ONE photo of a pedigreed dog in order to trash the whole breed...would you like to see some photos of unfit and very unhealthy cross breds?/ well you must look in other place.. you won't see it here.<br />Maybe this blog should become a photo album of "our dogs" healthy fit and cross bred or not..<br />Nice that Jemima has her defenders..but to say she only asks questions that other "novices" might ask is to beg the question.. why does she speak as an expert at an animal rights conference as an expert on dog breeding and genetics?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-22400945291533928102011-10-19T03:54:14.324+01:002011-10-19T03:54:14.324+01:00Jake is gorgeous! I just love lurchers and sighth...Jake is gorgeous! I just love lurchers and sighthounds.<br /><br /> And I agree--ten miles a day is nothing for a healthy, young (or middle-aged) dog. I routinely take 9-mile hikes in the Sierras and my whippet-mix and Golden Retriever had more pep and energy than me! <br /><br /> Finally, I also agree with another poster who mentioned the abuse Jemima receives in the comments section of this blog. It's truly jaw-dropping. I can't believe what I'm reading half the time. I never could have guessed a blog like this would provoke such vitriol and histrionics from so many people. To be honest, I sometimes visit just to read the comments (a guilty pleasure). I honestly wonder if so many of the haters realize just how BIZARRE they sound to people outside of the dog-show world. <br /><br /> Good work and I can't wait to see PDE2!<br /><br /> Ro Martinet romartinet@gmail.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-84083998750087712902011-10-18T22:04:23.982+01:002011-10-18T22:04:23.982+01:00No idea where Anon got the garbage in her last po...No idea where Anon got the garbage in her last post from . Where has Jemima EVER said "My cross breed is healthier ........ etc"? Where has she EVER said all dogs should be crossbred or that ALL pedigree dogs are neither healthy nor fit? She simply showed some photos of ONE fit and healthy crossbred that lives with her. Why not rejoice with her over this one very handsome dog as he enjoys his daily exercise, rather than twist everything she writes into something negative?dalriachnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-16040540540654688802011-10-18T17:47:11.101+01:002011-10-18T17:47:11.101+01:00Looks like this has degenerated into "my cros...Looks like this has degenerated into "my cross breed is better, healthier and can run further than than your pure bred.. just look at these photos" and all of you pedigreed dog owners and breeders" know nothing compared to the experts that frequently post here to show there prowess and intelligence in all matters canine.<br />Looks as though the blogger believes in cross breeding all dogs and that all pedigreed dogs are not healthy nor fit and that everyone's preference should be for a dog that can run 10 miles in a day every day.<br />The wonderful thing about dogs is that there is something for everyone, including a twenty minute walk on urban pavement .. or a ten mile run on the plains. One suit does not fit all people.. and that is a blessingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-4475337411711655192011-10-18T14:52:18.143+01:002011-10-18T14:52:18.143+01:00Jemima:
Something you might be interested in that...Jemima:<br /><br />Something you might be interested in that's cropping up in United Kennel Club show rings, some call it 'Triple Crown.' It's a special Best in Show ring, and dogs may enter only if they meet the following: must be a show CH or GRCH, must have a performance/sport title, and must have OFA or PennHip. (for breeds that do not hip test, such as small toy breeds, they must show some other health test.) Pretty cool, and some beautiful healthy dogs have been shown.Doglawnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-6215851651985393602011-10-18T09:10:19.884+01:002011-10-18T09:10:19.884+01:00I wonder what kind of dog Anon 23.52 owns? A gundo...I wonder what kind of dog Anon 23.52 owns? A gundog on a shoot or a gamekeeper's or falconer's dog or a foxhound can be out working for six or seven hours in day, and covering a great deal more than 10 miles! I've taken working springers up on the hills for a day, when I have walked 15 or 16 miles and the dogs have done 50 miles or more, and still willing to go further by the end of the day. In a day's field trialling with pointers and setters, which can last 6 to 8 hours in the roughest terrain you can imagine, we all walk the hills with the dogs for the whole day, with twenty minute runs at full blast as the dogs compete. A dog that gets through to the final round will probably have had three runs, as well as walking all day.<br />And the Country Code? Well, one is required to keep the dog under control, and particularly around livestock. A well trained dog doesnt necessarily need to be on a lead even near livestock, if it is well trained, obedient and steady . All working gundogs should be sheep, deer and rabbit proof. And I'm afraid , walking on a lead doesnt count as exercise for my dogs, they need to run free and off lead for a couple of hours per day, an hour is the absolute minimum even in bad weather<br />Jemima's dogs look very fit, because they get plenty of exercise, one hour free running shouldnt be a problem even for the older ones<br />Get real, there are people and dogs out there ,living in a world where a walk with a dog doesnt mean 20 minutes on an urban pavement, whose fitness is obviously beyond anon's experience :))dalriachnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-44483291698126622632011-10-18T01:27:57.749+01:002011-10-18T01:27:57.749+01:00Unbelievable. How does posting some photos of a pe...Unbelievable. How does posting some photos of a pet dog (very handsome) degenerate to unfounded comments about the Country Code???? I admire Jemima for not disabling the comments section of her blog, incredibly brave. HAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-21625289691202215362011-10-18T00:28:39.886+01:002011-10-18T00:28:39.886+01:00"Make the dog" cover ten miles, eh?
I&#..."Make the dog" cover ten miles, eh?<br /><br />I'm sure whips and chains are involved.<br /><br />Just as they are for my SAR dogs. Force 'em to work, we do.<br /><br />I was once privileged to free-course hare with salukis in the California Central Valley. They covered three or four open miles in about ten MINUTES. Including the leisurely lope back.<br /><br />But please, Anon who believes its whateverkindofshowdog are "sound' and "healthy" and define canine "normal," <i>keep digging.</i> Your astonishing spin on the physical capabilities of normal, healthy pet dogs -- not even mentioning working dogs -- really bolsters your authority.Heather Houlahanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13891198124130533198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-64160662351577087242011-10-17T23:52:32.866+01:002011-10-17T23:52:32.866+01:00A wolf may well cover more ground in a DAY but tha...A wolf may well cover more ground in a DAY but that is the whole point they would only cover 3 or 4 miles in an hour over say 10 or 12 hours, but to make any dog do 10 (and if the off the lead far more than that as I suspect Ms Harrison does not follow the Country Code) in say a hour is cruel indeed!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-70848348963009977782011-10-17T23:34:55.820+01:002011-10-17T23:34:55.820+01:00I was about to post to Anon 17 October 2011 19:40 ...I was about to post to Anon 17 October 2011 19:40 - luckily Jess did it and much better too!<br /><br />I guess it took quite awhile for me to "recover" from anon's amazing train of thought topped with questions without any sense at all!<br /><br />One question though @ anon 19:40: How old are you, if I may ask? <br /><br />-labpack-Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-72512515072102845632011-10-17T22:01:40.559+01:002011-10-17T22:01:40.559+01:00Anonymous 17 October 2011 19:40 said...
"lab...Anonymous 17 October 2011 19:40 said...<br /><br />"labpack.. never said quantity made the breeder.. just that actually planning a breeding, doing the breeding and rearing a litter and placing the pups is something that the blogger has never experienced so why should she be called an "expert"?"<br /><br />I have yet to see Jemima call herself an 'expert' in breeding and whelping dogs. (After realizing that many long time breeders are exceedingly ignorant about biology and genetics, and are completely unable to vet the quality of information presented, I am curious as to constitues an 'expert' anyways.) What I see in her articles are the same kinds of questions that I see either novices or interested pet people ask: Why are you doing that? What is the purpose? Is that good for the dogs? What are the long term consequences?<br /><br />The fact that the so-called fancy cannot give clear answers to these questions is damning. <br /><br />Reading some of the comments on this site and others makes me ashamed to call myself a dog breeder.Jesshttp://desertwindhounds.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-86998726923772130162011-10-17T19:40:21.606+01:002011-10-17T19:40:21.606+01:00labpack.. never said quantity made the breeder.. j...labpack.. never said quantity made the breeder.. just that actually planning a breeding, doing the breeding and rearing a litter and placing the pups is something that the blogger has never experienced so why should she be called an "expert"?<br />Would you ask the postman to deliver your baby or would you prefer someone with experience? Ask the auto mechanic to pull your tooth? Or prefer a dentist? "those than can do.. those that cannot lecture.."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-42647574150602383522011-10-17T19:03:55.571+01:002011-10-17T19:03:55.571+01:00@ anonymous
how dare you criticizes some one else&...@ anonymous<br />how dare you criticizes some one else's dog just because it is a cross breed (mongrel),all dogs are cross breeds(mongrels)and most of these dogs are far healther and fitter than most so called pedigree dogs,sorry i mean cross bred!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-51758465710053356882011-10-17T18:21:52.157+01:002011-10-17T18:21:52.157+01:00My goodness I don't know how you can sleep at ...My goodness I don't know how you can sleep at night with this hatred against you Jemima! What have you done to deserve this? Oh, I remember, you made a ground breaking documentary about the hereditary health issues in pedigree dogs; the findings of which have been confirmed by 3 independent reports - one commissioned by the KC.<br /><br />Nobody ever deserves the type of malicious comments seen on here. I realise that there are people out there who are doing a good job in trying to eradicate health problems in dogs - and I admire them greatly! It can't be easy doing this when there is so much objection.<br /><br />I think Jemima has shown a lot of restraint in answering the posts on this blog.... That she finally lets us see a snippet of what life is like for her on a daily basis, is very enlightening!<br /><br />Yes, if breeding litters is a testament to experience then puppy farmers are the best breeders to comment on dog breeding - hands down.... <br /><br />I absolutely don't agree with the comment that Crufts is a parade of mutants - but there are some seriously deformed dogs being shown there - although not all. I'm looking forward to seeing PDE2 - I hope it's shown shortly before Crufts..... <br /><br />Hopefully we will see some "positives". I admire Jemima for seeing this topic through. Most producers wouldn't do that...<br /><br />PS: I love Jake and you can see the sighthound in him in the pic where he's running. He's stunning. My old boy is 14 now cross collie/GSD and he can still jump the back fence no problem at all.....and he doesnt gasp for breath when over the other side.... He was at the vet last week for a little check up and the vet said he's fitter than a lot of dogs she sees that are half his age....Annie Macfarlanehttp://www.braccoitalianoscotland.co.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-16432987242409748432011-10-17T14:31:49.777+01:002011-10-17T14:31:49.777+01:00Less than 2% of all dogs are shown, if you picked ...Less than 2% of all dogs are shown, if you picked on any minority of the human population you would be named a racist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com