tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post6408523382335384338..comments2024-03-20T17:32:35.238+00:00Comments on Pedigree Dogs Exposed - The Blog: Crufts 2016: watery-eyed, exercise-intolerant maggot wins the Toy groupJemima Harrisonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05092892697145388048noreply@blogger.comBlogger55125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-45929725930208767782016-06-03T15:49:39.603+01:002016-06-03T15:49:39.603+01:00She watches it BECAUSE she's condemning it. Sh...She watches it BECAUSE she's condemning it. She can't very well say how awful it is if she doesn't watch it can she? Then you'd come on here saying "You don't even watch the show so you know nothing about it".<br /><br />"Know thy enemy" - it makes sense to see what's going on at Crufts in order to point out what's wrong with it. This is obvious to anyone with half a brain, unfortunately it seems to have escaped you.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17520676743458940905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-75916985393941773352016-05-13T09:23:08.507+01:002016-05-13T09:23:08.507+01:00This is a rather inaccurate comment. You are unlik...This is a rather inaccurate comment. You are unlikely to double up on health problems by breeding together two very unrelated individuals such as dogs from different breeds. Simple genetics tells us that a bad recessive gene is not going to present a problem unless it's combined with the same recessive gene carried by the other parent, at which point the pups end up with two copies of the gene and the health problem is then expressed. This is far more likely to happen when breeding together two genetically similar animals such as those from the same breed, especially where the gene pool is small and all the dogs are very similar. So in fact you are much more likely to 'double up' on health problems by breeding within a closed pedigree breed group than by crossing breeds. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-22315384641612586912016-03-30T01:28:44.204+01:002016-03-30T01:28:44.204+01:00If that were the case, the short muzzle would be a...If that were the case, the short muzzle would be a decidedly non-functional trait.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-70885958827692916002016-03-24T09:04:50.695+00:002016-03-24T09:04:50.695+00:00Despite the KC's promotion of happy, healthy d...Despite the KC's promotion of happy, healthy dogs and changes to the breed standard, this dog looks EXACTLY like the 2003 BIS Peke. Meaning, 13-years later and there has been zero progress in improving this breed's conformation. Frannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-35565435750214107992016-03-24T09:00:01.369+00:002016-03-24T09:00:01.369+00:00Despite all the KC's claims and the changes to...Despite all the KC's claims and the changes to the breed standard, this dog looks EXACTLY like the 2003 Peke. Meaning, in 13-years there has been zero progress in improving the conformation of this breed. Franhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08668777667156146789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-10852473603342719702016-03-17T18:58:50.695+00:002016-03-17T18:58:50.695+00:00The Peke was a parody of the breed that came over ...The Peke was a parody of the breed that came over from China. Even putting aside the clear evidence from archive film and pictures that the breed has morphed from something resembling a Tibetan Spaniel to a Tribble, just because it was once thought a good idea to create a breed that is not capable of 'running that far' does this mean it is ethical to perpetuate it? I've known fit, happy and really lovely Pekes in the past, so I don't believe personally for one moment that they were intended to resemble a wheezing hairball, but if they were, what's so awful about letting a breed die out with dignity if the alternative is preserving something that isn't fit for purpose as an animal, let alone a dog? <br /><br />If the Peke has evolved into this parody and it is not what the breed is supposed to resemble (and I think we have enough proof available to say with confidence that it was never intended to be so flat-faced, squat and hairy)then why do judges and breeders strive for something that contradicts their apparent desire to 'preserve the true breed type?' <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-39223550737955700262016-03-16T22:28:21.050+00:002016-03-16T22:28:21.050+00:00Watery eyed maggot ?' shame on you all ,you ar...Watery eyed maggot ?' shame on you all ,you are talking about a animal not some thing that you can vent your spleen on just because you feel like it .the Pekingese is a wonderful breed ,I've had them in my family for over 50 years and they are a long lived and healthy dog . Don't get me wrong there is a lot that I agree with concerning the show world , the German shepherd ,the cavalier spaniel ,pugs ,are all far more popular ,in there thousands no less ALL with a hell of a lot more issues <br />And yet time and time again the peke is used as a poster boy as everything that's wrong with pedigree dogs .please remember that the dog world is just like the human one ,we come in all shapes and sizes ,with something to please everyone ,whether you like a greyhound ,a beagle or even shock horror a Pekingese ,the vile comments are beneath intelligent conversation ,which I know most of you being fellow animal lovers are far above . By the way kissy kissy judging ,mmmm even I admit ,yeah bit odd ! But god love you and your pets .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-67259769641434534032016-03-16T02:34:20.481+00:002016-03-16T02:34:20.481+00:00the judging making kissy faces at the dogs is just...the judging making kissy faces at the dogs is just so false... this judge has no ability to read the dogs reaction either as they often recoiled.........Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-12430658975550582062016-03-16T02:32:38.601+00:002016-03-16T02:32:38.601+00:00only just got around to watching the toy group win...only just got around to watching the toy group winner - that poor dog, he is overheated just standing there. I wonder how the judge would like to struggle to get enough air in like that dog is so obviously doing? How about Bert, let's constrict your breathing via stuffing something up your nostrils and see how you like it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-88188527586857553042016-03-16T02:30:18.275+00:002016-03-16T02:30:18.275+00:00good point - why are dogs who's owners cannot ...good point - why are dogs who's owners cannot prove their health allowed to be shown or bred with? Surely if the KC wants to say it promotes the purebreed dog, it would only register dogs from health proven parents?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-8518880618124803342016-03-15T10:51:50.910+00:002016-03-15T10:51:50.910+00:00The Peke, as it is bred today, is an achondroplast...The Peke, as it is bred today, is an achondroplastic dwarf. Simply compare its skeletal structure to a human who has the same form of dwarfism and voila, they are pretty much the same. Surely this isn't good for a breed that didn't start out that way. A few Peke breeders/exhibitors I know have complained that seizure disorders also plague their litters as young puppies and they have been forced to put them down. Many other serious medical conditions also seem to plague Pekes apart from the breathing issues. These are serious issues and need to be addressed all over the world about this breed. However, I do find your mean spirited personal comments on both the peke, its owner and the "pasty faced" toy judge really off putting and needless. The dog, whether you agree with its conformation or not, is still a loving and giving creature and not something you should be hurling epithets at. Your own take on the owner and the judge add nothing to the conversation about the health issues of pure bred dogs that you claim to advocate. As to the judge kissing and being affectionate with the dogs on the table, I didn't find that disgusting or odd at all. Most toy dogs were developed to bring our affectionate side out and act strictly as endearing companions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-28695295075278979572016-03-14T16:57:32.811+00:002016-03-14T16:57:32.811+00:00This is the stupidest thing I've read all day....This is the stupidest thing I've read all day.<br />Just like that rubbish "The folds on a bulldog's face are to divert blood away" nonsense that the KC peddle to try to justify their god awful breed standards.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-83261548556063171102016-03-14T16:55:52.641+00:002016-03-14T16:55:52.641+00:00This is always the KC brigade's rebuttal.
Wher...This is always the KC brigade's rebuttal.<br />Where on this blog do you see anybody advocating for designer dogs?<br />That's right, nowhere.<br />Plus that's an appalling defense anyway.<br />"Other dogs are unhealthy too". Disgraceful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-78301662194536610662016-03-14T16:54:02.630+00:002016-03-14T16:54:02.630+00:00"Peke lover", if you detest this blog so..."Peke lover", if you detest this blog so much, why are you even reading it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-3960655294031650842016-03-14T16:53:03.667+00:002016-03-14T16:53:03.667+00:00"Unknown", This dog struggled to do a sm..."Unknown", This dog struggled to do a small lap of the arena, how on earth can you claim they can keep up with other dogs?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-75821702026121473662016-03-14T16:51:24.409+00:002016-03-14T16:51:24.409+00:00Why do the KC brigade always use this as a rebutta...Why do the KC brigade always use this as a rebuttal?<br />Where on this blog do you see us advocating the breeding of mutts?<br />We're for responsible breeding not uncontrolled puppy farming.<br />Also interesting that you're not denying the health train wreck of these dogs, just saying "other people do it too".<br /><br />Please try harder Rob.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-31561610772988120682016-03-14T11:23:57.780+00:002016-03-14T11:23:57.780+00:00I was very shocked to see the judge kissing many o...I was very shocked to see the judge kissing many of the small dogs, not good practice when we tell children not to do this, just because they are small dogs does not mean they wont bite, I have a pug who is very loving to all children but still would not allow people to kiss him on the face, he is not show quality but as our vet says he has a nose he can breath through his eyes are not pretuding like some of the breed are causing eye injury and can go on long walks without panting or hearing him breathing, and not overweight, a healthy happy pug :-) Annenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-24125129883601465672016-03-13T22:50:07.324+00:002016-03-13T22:50:07.324+00:00@Anonymous 11 March 2016 at 09:54
I can see the ...@Anonymous 11 March 2016 at 09:54<br /><br /><br />I can see the point you're making but why can Cavaliers still win if the ones that have been at the show in the past have had SM or CM? I mean lets face it, nearly all cavaliers are seriously ill past a certain age and even at a younger age the chances of them still being ill are pretty substantial....<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-92103315320761736602016-03-13T11:04:35.876+00:002016-03-13T11:04:35.876+00:00Just proves dog shows are corrupt for this poor pe...Just proves dog shows are corrupt for this poor peke to win, I feel sorry for the dogs, the GSD's where walking on their hocks and stumbling all over, these show are not good for dogs. judithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14882069478633483321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-35048180945368409962016-03-13T08:42:29.620+00:002016-03-13T08:42:29.620+00:00By all means state your opinion on the dog but to ...By all means state your opinion on the dog but to go as low as to call the owner Creepy? I thought you were better than that Jemima? Guess I was giving the benefit of the doubt. <br /><br />There's no need to insult the owner.Lexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03296649006990649569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-18429374253665809892016-03-12T21:37:19.715+00:002016-03-12T21:37:19.715+00:00These are photos of Pekingese dogs from the late 1...These are photos of Pekingese dogs from the late 19th and early 20th century. https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/7a/fa/59/7afa5959ff1d1db8e96efede800a8b4f.jpg<br />http://retrieverman.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/1899-pekingese.jpg<br />This is one of the original Pekingese dogs imported FROM CHINA.<br />http://equinetapestry.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/AhCum.jpg<br />And THIS is the monstrosity that won last night:<br />http://www.yakee.org/images/OohAahCantona3.jpg<br />Are you SERIOUSLY telling me you cannot see a difference?<br /><br />Oh, and by the way; just because it has been done for thousands of years does not make it right. If a dog has been deliberately bred to be crippled, that dog should not be bred anymore.<br />Anti-Social Animalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04970569625259071696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-73053697284821898422016-03-12T17:28:49.409+00:002016-03-12T17:28:49.409+00:00What the heck has this to do with "designer d...What the heck has this to do with "designer dogs"?! All dogs have a mix of other breeds in the ancestry. No single dog has pure dna! I have been the proud owner of a labradoodle "mutt" for 5 years and not had a days problem health wise with him - or any other wise with him come to think of it. He is a brilliant dog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-36214391978791394382016-03-12T13:50:17.508+00:002016-03-12T13:50:17.508+00:00Sorry but the modern Peke is not an improvement ov...Sorry but the modern Peke is not an improvement over the original. The dog of yesterday seemed to have longer legs, longer snout and shorter coat. Like most dogs of yesteryear, they were less exaggerated than their modern counterparts.. Who's to say these dogs couldn't move period? I find that hard to believe by these old photos of the original dogs... if anything they could probably move better than any modern relative.<br />http://chestofbooks.com/animals/dogs/Toy-Dogs/images/PEKINGESE-Foo-Kwai-of-Newnham-owned-by-Mrs-W-H-Herbert.jpg<br />http://chestofbooks.com/animals/dogs/Dogs-All-Nations/images/Pekingese.jpg<br />http://equinetapestry.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/AhCum.jpg<br />Look at these dogs. I see no modern improvements.<br /><br /><br />And isn't the point of these shows to preserve breeds? I find it silly that the modern Peke can place anymore considering they had severely altered the appearance of the original dog. The modern Peke has no resemblance of this once ancient lap dog. It shouldn't be placed. It has now adopted a modern, western appearance. No longer should it be totted as something ancient! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-23419790676871538292016-03-12T02:01:45.897+00:002016-03-12T02:01:45.897+00:00Before you condemn breeders of the dogs of today, ...Before you condemn breeders of the dogs of today, be sure that you know fully what they were originally bred to do.<br />The Pekingese was never bred to run. In fact, the Chinese deliberately bred the legs short and crooked so that the dog could not run away.<br />The Pekingese was bred as a protector for the Chinese Royalty. The dog would sit in the large sleeves of the robe. If someone unwanted approached the Royal Person, they would open their arms and extend the sleeve outward and the dog would jump forward, barking and snarling, driving them off and, if necessary, attack the person.<br />Only Royalty were allowed to own Pekinese and possession by anyone other then the Imperial Household was punishable by death. The Breed was unknown by the Western World until the Royal Palace in Peking was looted by the British in 1860.<br />If anything, the Pekingese breeders of today have improved the Breed to where the legs, while still slightly crooked, are more naturally sound allowing the dogs to walk easier and to run. Gone are the dogs that could do nothing more than sit in a sleeve.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11369170137588115041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-58131381793321330022016-03-12T01:01:48.939+00:002016-03-12T01:01:48.939+00:00I agree!
Maybe it would help people to see what ...I agree! <br /><br />Maybe it would help people to see what COULD be had.<br />That are worthy alternatives, very fit for most any purpose people no longer even recognize.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com