tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post5642819637115207342..comments2024-03-20T17:32:35.238+00:00Comments on Pedigree Dogs Exposed - The Blog: Able MabelJemima Harrisonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05092892697145388048noreply@blogger.comBlogger86125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-64673807421061701312012-05-12T05:33:47.422+01:002012-05-12T05:33:47.422+01:00I think both dogs are just as great, Anon. Mabel i...I think both dogs are just as great, Anon. Mabel is perfect (not to mention healthier) and she still looks like a bulldog (it least to me). Even Ms. Harrison thinks that Mabel is fit for function. How could you not love Mabel, she is fabulous. <br />- with respect, sincerely Fang.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-12365010041885249002012-05-02T19:35:04.135+01:002012-05-02T19:35:04.135+01:00The black dog in the last picture is better than m...The black dog in the last picture is better than mabel.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-37189824063204475862012-04-08T23:07:00.645+01:002012-04-08T23:07:00.645+01:00May I ask why you want to know and why it is so ur...May I ask why you want to know and why it is so urgent? Feel free to email me privately if you prefer - jem@pedigreedogsexposed.com<br /><br />JemimaJemima Harrisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05092892697145388048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-17878212323045307502012-04-08T21:31:22.045+01:002012-04-08T21:31:22.045+01:00Can somebody PLEASE TELL ME WHO TOOK THIS PICTURE ...Can somebody PLEASE TELL ME WHO TOOK THIS PICTURE OF MABEL? URGENTLYAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-76237791418400402152012-03-31T17:34:23.557+01:002012-03-31T17:34:23.557+01:00Mabel's muzzle looks flatter than the show bul...Mabel's muzzle looks flatter than the show bull dog's muzzle. The only difference that I see is the wrinkling and wrinkles do not make a dog less fit nor do they adversely impact on respiration. Wrinkling makes a dog's skin more puncture resistant which can be a good thing from a function perspective.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-18877790508873195802012-03-29T16:45:44.069+01:002012-03-29T16:45:44.069+01:00how can they be Bulldogs despite being mixes?
bull...how can they be Bulldogs despite being mixes?<br />bulldogs are a world known and recognised breed, mixes are one breed short of a mongrel!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-71214925277390127772012-03-29T16:41:13.135+01:002012-03-29T16:41:13.135+01:00I think you'll find your comparison dog was ch...I think you'll find your comparison dog was chosen more for who he belonged and how many judging appointments the owners had coming up.<br />this happens in all breeds all to often in the dog show world .<br />In order to create and 'push' the new standards requested, we should consider thinking of moving up the lesser known judges in waiting and drop away from the older pals clubAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-70966130353807104212012-03-28T20:45:59.595+01:002012-03-28T20:45:59.595+01:00How do the measurements compare when you measure f...How do the measurements compare when you measure from the base of the nose leather, which is clearly visible in both?Marynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-53976206872685027812012-03-27T20:36:09.176+01:002012-03-27T20:36:09.176+01:00AnonymousMar 26, 2012 09:04 AM
I am a very experie...AnonymousMar 26, 2012 09:04 AM<br />I am a very experienced dog ownerand able to make my own choices anddecisions and no lemming thank you. <br />I base my oppinions on what I think and am not always in agreement with Jemima but she is trying to improve things for dogs in general and for that she should be applauded and supported <br /><br />And as for Judging things on pictures I also went to Crufts to see for myself and did an awful lot of research thank youAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-72464057400708031562012-03-27T19:47:15.650+01:002012-03-27T19:47:15.650+01:00Seriously? You need to define "muzzle". ...Seriously? You need to define "muzzle". If you include the lower jaw in the muzzle then of course the length looks similar. But can't you see the difference in nose lentgh? Why do you think the show dog gets that roll of skin over the nose? Because the skin has nowhere to go when the skeleton of the upper jaw is so short.<br /><br />And another thing. The problem with brachycephalic or "short-nosed" dogs is that only the skeleton is shortened. Inside those tiny skeletal airways, all the soft tissues and mucus membranes of a normal nose must fit. That is why they have problems with breathing and snoring and swelling och the airways.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-81929718334839459652012-03-27T17:21:20.286+01:002012-03-27T17:21:20.286+01:00Anyone who thinks she has a sway back needs to get...Anyone who thinks she has a sway back needs to get glasses or get a new prescription.Catenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-33355214072499323642012-03-27T17:17:42.462+01:002012-03-27T17:17:42.462+01:00I went from the top of the nose, front tip, which ...I went from the top of the nose, front tip, which is barely visible under the Champions skin role, to the eye corner.<br /><br />KaryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-35290176870877168012012-03-27T13:55:20.517+01:002012-03-27T13:55:20.517+01:00Good gravy, army of anons. This dog is neither ro...Good gravy, army of anons. This dog is neither roach-backed (highline GSD, Bedlington) nor swaybacked (old nag horse). She has an arch over the loin. This, in moderation, is a good thing, adds power to the dog at a gallop.<br /><br />She does appear to be downhill, but as has been stated, may grow out of it. It can be a teenage phase. Slightly downhill is a small structural issue compared to the others that beset the bulldog.<br /><br />I still think her muzzle is FAR too short for health and welfare, and not that much different from the show dog she is compared to. But at least she has legs.Heather Houlahanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13891198124130533198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-41027927400126285852012-03-27T12:33:49.853+01:002012-03-27T12:33:49.853+01:00I've been showing successfully since 1977 (nev...I've been showing successfully since 1977 (never breed, and only deal with "natural looking" breeds). I would definitely take Mabel and her roach back over any show-winning bulldog. While Mabel is purebred, seeing her running at the park reminds me of a time back in the 90's when I saw a Pug x Chihuahua cross at our local dog park. This dog looked almost exactly like a Pug, but with a moderate muzzle and fewer skin folds. That dog could run... and run... and run! It was so nice seeing a basically Pug-looking dog escape from the terrible anatomy suffered by its purebred Pug parent.<br /><br />And about people who aren't concerned with the skin fold in the show specimen, have you even seen PDE? There is a great scene there of a Bulldog under anesthesia who has its skin folds separated...to expose nothing but oozing infections and "crud" like layers of mud. And that was a well-cared for dog with owners rich enough to pay for surgery. Exposing the skin folds was just a sideline to the fact that the dog needed surgery for something else (I think breathing difficulties).S.K.Y.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10394626858056890715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-16137935930611218882012-03-27T08:07:22.117+01:002012-03-27T08:07:22.117+01:00Which end of the nose (top or bottom) did you meas...Which end of the nose (top or bottom) did you measure to, Kary? I was going to the base of the nose leather, not the top. I agree the 'showdog' is more undershot than Mabel.Marynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-88663471622837399222012-03-27T06:54:41.566+01:002012-03-27T06:54:41.566+01:00In the words of many anons over the last two years...In the words of many anons over the last two years.....THINGS CANNOT CHANGE OVER NIGHT!<br /><br />I take it you prefer a bulldog with a pointless undershot jaw, wrinkles that serve no purpose, a head so big it gets stuck in the birth canal?<br /><br />Bravo to Mable's breeder for breeding a bulldog without the above exaggerations.Kate Pricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12984661154425549615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-7615357494822568012012-03-27T06:25:54.046+01:002012-03-27T06:25:54.046+01:00Time for a visit to your optician anonymous 12.40p...Time for a visit to your optician anonymous 12.40pm, I believe you need a new pair of glasses!!ValChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11486595734079952660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-57996589958997779102012-03-27T01:38:30.263+01:002012-03-27T01:38:30.263+01:00I just transfered both images onto paint and measu...I just transfered both images onto paint and measured. The distance from the corner eye to the nose end on the Champion dog is a good amount shorter - it is 75% of the length of the pet bred dog. The lower jaw is also far more forward on the Champion dog.<br /><br />KaryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-84398688350856874982012-03-26T20:57:35.657+01:002012-03-26T20:57:35.657+01:00Anonymous 12.03; ignore the "nose-rope" ...Anonymous 12.03; ignore the "nose-rope" and look at the distance between the actual nose leather and the eye in both profiles. They're pretty much identical. The one labelled 'showdog' appears to have a proportionately longer skull than Mabel but that could be an illusion caused by the ear carriage.Marynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-88667961299173703412012-03-26T20:55:24.159+01:002012-03-26T20:55:24.159+01:00The head shot of Mabel looks like she is much youn...The head shot of Mabel looks like she is much younger than other pictures ???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-24682767920620346342012-03-26T20:40:48.595+01:002012-03-26T20:40:48.595+01:00As far as I can see the only difference is the nos...As far as I can see the only difference is the nose roll the length of muzzle looks really the same <br />THE SHOW DOG does have a muzzle !!! I think you must be looking at the wrong picture ??? As the only difference as I said is nose roll...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-31584064011221489962012-03-26T20:03:30.923+01:002012-03-26T20:03:30.923+01:00Sorry, but are you looking at the same pictures I ...Sorry, but are you looking at the same pictures I am? Huge diffenece IMO between nose and eye socket.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-70073781702548138882012-03-26T19:40:05.761+01:002012-03-26T19:40:05.761+01:00Personally, I see little difference in the two dog...Personally, I see little difference in the two dogs' head shapes. Would you look at the skullshape, they are probably more or less the same shit. The showdog have lot of wrinkled skin, but the length of the nose seems to be about the same.Rathuntershttp://www.rathunters.dinstudio.senoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-8628191520511085152012-03-26T18:30:50.065+01:002012-03-26T18:30:50.065+01:00I'm no bulldog expert, but I'd say Mabel i...I'm no bulldog expert, but I'd say Mabel is a puppy still and it's too early to call on her top line. If she were a Labrador, I'd be saying she's bum-high and hope she grows out of it. <br />At first glance, puppies almost always look healthier than older dogs.<br />She also looks pretty brachy to me. The distance between the tip of her nose and the plane of her eye sockets is not much greater than that in the photo labeled 'Showdog'. The bigger differences seem to be in bite and wrinkles.Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14389321571689128858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-38813899997199550462012-03-26T17:07:11.553+01:002012-03-26T17:07:11.553+01:00Two different Anons state that this is a sway back...Two different Anons state that this is a sway back. A sway back is a back that dips from withers to point of hip; think of an ancient horse who has a big dip where the saddle would go. A roach back is one with a rise in it. It is not possible for a dog to be "so roached it's a swayback"; the two are opposites. <br /><br />I agree I'd be concerned about her back, though, as already stated. Is she a growthy late-maturing pup or is this permanent? I had a cat who spent a few months with her high-end so high she looked like a Jack rabbit and she leveled out (for a cat; cats are higher behind naturally). But she was under a year when this happened.Bethnoreply@blogger.com