tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post3928798815320119477..comments2024-03-20T17:32:35.238+00:00Comments on Pedigree Dogs Exposed - The Blog: ANKC accuses scientists of "relentless attack" on pedigree dogsJemima Harrisonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05092892697145388048noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-19872702229464345192017-01-11T15:11:30.259+00:002017-01-11T15:11:30.259+00:00A link to the English page of the Norwegian Kennel...A link to the English page of the Norwegian Kennel Club:<br />http://web2.nkk.no/en/news/news/Focus+on+brachycephalic+breeds.b7C_wlHMWm.ipsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-14090232368818100692016-06-03T20:50:11.248+01:002016-06-03T20:50:11.248+01:00I don't hate all purebreds, I just hate those...I don't hate all purebreds, I just hate those breeders breeding for dog shows. My favourite breed is the border collie but the show type makes me cringe - I wish the breed had never entered the KC.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17520676743458940905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-55240783126175730552016-05-08T15:36:36.478+01:002016-05-08T15:36:36.478+01:00Unbelievable!Unbelievable!Jug Doghttp://www.jugdog.co.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-75906318485187942672016-04-16T05:13:42.075+01:002016-04-16T05:13:42.075+01:00I think you scored then!
But yes absolutely. In ...I think you scored then! <br /><br />But yes absolutely. In fact working Teckels are incredible little things, fully fit for purpose. The miniature teckle has to be the darling of vermin control IMO, LOL. Those game little beady eyes and whiskers are completely irresistible.<br /><br />They don't make such good pets though as you're likely to lose them to ground at the very first opportunity. <br /><br />Interesting how none the less die hard parsons type JRT people will still tell you short JRTs are all wrong and shouldn't even be called JRTs and yet....A proportionally diminutive JRT is as much dynamite as a working Teckle is. And the cross somewhere along the line is not at all a bad thing. This is in fact where many smaller rectangular in shape game JRTs came from. Not all from working lines obviously, though. Im still a sucker for all white with a tail spot and head markings what ever they look like.<br /><br />Heavy big headed achondroplastic JRTs with big deep chests, long bodies and feet going east west are of course a different matter. Ooops got a bit side tracked here, but actually I haven't seen a JRT of that type for many many years. Last was in Swaziland in the early 90s where that size is in fact even something of an advantage given what borrows or permanently lives down the majority of holes there. I think basset hound was distantly involved there. As game as they can be with a very good nose they seem to have for the most part vanished entirely. <br /><br />For the most part showing smooth,rough or long haired Dachshunds in all sizes are a mess, though. The mini smooth seems to be the most game (IMO), but racked with horrific problems of the spine and a few other things. Antonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14041212020431214852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-66536370898725479022016-04-15T03:27:02.581+01:002016-04-15T03:27:02.581+01:00River P,
I have two healthy happy pedigreed,show...River P, <br /><br />I have two healthy happy pedigreed,show bred long-haired Dachshunds laying right beside me as I type. One is a mini who is my current show dog, he is higher on the leg than alot of Dachshunds you see in the show ring but I prefer a bit longer legs,he can go up and down stairs without bumping his chest or manly bits,he can go over branches,etc with no problem as well,& has prey drive out the wazoo. My other is a neutered retired champion who is the shorter legged type, the only problem he has is a bad coat which he developed after being neutered. Would I like to see the German type Dachshund become more the standard here in USA you betcha. Heck the DCA can't even agree if Minis and Standards should be made different breeds or on the Piebald question either lol. Would I like to see brachies with more snout yep I would. Am I ticked at what I see happening to the breed that is dearest to my heart,my one true love the GSD you fricking betcha, that's why I chose my next favorite breed to show and possibly breed. I also don't go near the GSD ring when at shows because I wouldn't be able to control my mouth if I did. Therefore I make do with my two doxies and my rescue Pit Bull mix.Trishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00650864302229431099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-36897110143427868662016-04-12T08:49:24.945+01:002016-04-12T08:49:24.945+01:00As long as the ears aren't extreme prick ears ...As long as the ears aren't extreme prick ears or hacked that way by unscrupulous breeders as in the case of Great Danes Dobermans etc in America? <br /><br />You're tilting at windmills Warrioress. Don't you want healthy happy pedigree dogs?<br /><br />If you do, how do you see that happening when dogs are being selected for unhealthy traits that cause real pain and suffering? When dogs are bred in a way that causes genetic disease?<br /><br />The problem is many people want a healthy happy pedigree dog but find it almost impossible to find one. Wouldn't it be fantastic to look up a breed and not find pitfall lists of diseases and problems you're almost certainly going to have to deal with? <br /><br />For many people this is when they realise somethings up. <br /><br />They either help try and change things or get a working bred line dog or a mixed breed, or simply ignore the pain and suffering and pretend everythings just fine.Antonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14041212020431214852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-3027887496678595452016-04-12T04:24:56.260+01:002016-04-12T04:24:56.260+01:00Sorry to burst your bubble, Celtic, but most of us...Sorry to burst your bubble, Celtic, but most of us commenting here, myself included, have purebred dogs & love them very much (& I have several different breeds, both as pets & as working animals, ranging in size from 9 pounds to 130 pounds, so I certainly don't want all dogs to be the same type!). Because we love them, we want to see them bred in such a way that we can continue to own them. That is increasingly difficult when they are selected for more & more extreme phenotypes that destroy both their quality & quantity of life!Annahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11988735723510878162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-89680539708613409522016-04-11T19:50:22.229+01:002016-04-11T19:50:22.229+01:00I'm a bit bemused by the underlying research u...I'm a bit bemused by the underlying research under discussion - what does the data demonstrate? I've looked at all the models...but I can't quite see how this relates to the conclusion (couldn't they have got that by just counting the relevant registrations?). Does the data analysis say anything about whether the health of flat faced dogs registered by the AKC is getting better or worse? Or does it just say people are buying more of of these dogs?Julie Claytonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-17421079585975055222016-04-11T18:32:38.568+01:002016-04-11T18:32:38.568+01:00No, my Celtic Warrioress, Jemima and her ilk love ...No, my Celtic Warrioress, Jemima and her ilk love purebred dogs they simply don't like how people have damaged their purebreds by breeding for extreme forms. These people are quite happy to Not breed only archetypal dogs but dogs of many different forms and personalities.<br />Julie PearAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-37432544489865507782016-04-11T01:17:08.937+01:002016-04-11T01:17:08.937+01:00Anna that's because Anti-Purebred people like ...Anna that's because Anti-Purebred people like Jemima and ilk ARE attacking purebred dogs,purebred dog breeders and show people such as myself. You won't be happy until purebreds no longer exist and all dogs are medium sized, prick eared,brown mutts.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03195512611063466424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-75071473054224434752016-04-09T04:16:32.923+01:002016-04-09T04:16:32.923+01:00Being Australian Mr Hugh Gent could very well be l...Being Australian Mr Hugh Gent could very well be linguistically challenged so I thought I should mention that The Leipzig Small Animal Veterinarian University's abstract on Brachycephly is in English. <br /><br />Interesting that they in effect call for tougher laws to stop qualzucht breeding. In fact the entire abstract is quite far reaching which is a very positive. Here are some points taken from the epilogue........<br /><br />So-called ’stress tests’ that require the dog to walk for 10 minutes without difficulty, are definitely not suitable for determining whether an animal is fit for breed-ing, and even less so for correcting the mistakes made in past decades. <br />~<br />The current state of health of many pure-bred dogs is alarming. It is obvious that the concept of dog breeding in the last 100 years has not worked and has opened the door to mistakes with serious consequences.<br />~<br />Current veterinary medicine is complicit in the practice of maintaining dogs of breeds with inherited defects healthy and suitable for breeding.<br />~<br />The veterinary community must work harder in this area and law makers must realise that current laws are completely inadequate to halt the vanities involved in dog breeding.<br />~<br />Considering all the mistakes that have been made in pure-bred dog breeding, it may be necessary to discuss whether breeding and selling of dogs should be licensed.<br />~<br />The concept of dog shows must also be revised. Many judges and those involved in the selection of show judges have not served dog breeds well. Numerous judges still place an absurd emphasis on external characteristics, which in turn greatly influences breeders to strive for the same. For example, even today a pug or bulldog with a “visible” nose has no chance of winning in the show ring.<br />~<br />The production of unhealthy dogs will continue as long as international breed standards (Fédération Cynologique Internationale, FCI) tolerate unhealthy breed characteristics.<br /><br />Antonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14041212020431214852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-74684065579425611612016-04-09T00:56:48.553+01:002016-04-09T00:56:48.553+01:00Well, If you don't see yourself as just anothe...Well, If you don't see yourself as just another part of your environment, but as some thing distinct and separate so no need to respond, of course you must be a victim.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-64946034404985425442016-04-08T22:35:29.712+01:002016-04-08T22:35:29.712+01:00It's like the Daily Show joke: Reality has a w...It's like the Daily Show joke: Reality has a well-known liberal bias. And reality also has a well-known anti-inbreeding, anti-pedigree-as-an-end-in-itself, anti-lousy-physiology bias. Reality sucks. <br /><br />Reality will get better for them when the keeping and breeding of flat-faced dogs becomes such a vanishingly small niche that people notice the dogs about as much as they do waltzing mice. SecondThoughtsOptionalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10346367404158226468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-58158085698880325142016-04-08T11:34:33.661+01:002016-04-08T11:34:33.661+01:00Dog breeders and their clubs "playing the vic...Dog breeders and their clubs "playing the victim",as usual!!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00902172020810444755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-72750604197192859982016-04-08T09:33:20.087+01:002016-04-08T09:33:20.087+01:00For ANKC to say 'show me the science' on t...For ANKC to say 'show me the science' on the issue of brachy construction defects seems beyond belief, tell Mr Hugh Gent to try Googling Brachycephalic Airway Syndrome - here is a starter for him http://kleintierklinik.uni-leipzig.de/cms/en/abteilungen/E/brachyzephalie/faq<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-60194377267705381052016-04-08T08:56:53.952+01:002016-04-08T08:56:53.952+01:00My fault. Should be working now. It's this:
h...My fault. Should be working now. It's this:<br /><br />http://cgejournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40575-015-0023-8Jemima Harrisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05092892697145388048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-68552409062645860652016-04-08T08:56:23.583+01:002016-04-08T08:56:23.583+01:00This is amazing... if I can get it in English, wil...This is amazing... if I can get it in English, will blog separately about it.Jemima Harrisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05092892697145388048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-33998335729871326432016-04-08T03:51:56.015+01:002016-04-08T03:51:56.015+01:00Excellent post Merrie.
"selecting for more ...Excellent post Merrie. <br /><br />"selecting for more moderate morphology" should be the standard catch cry for all breeders of all dogs. <br />Just a few major obstacles to overcome - the inclination for extremes to be rewarded in the show ring and the penchant for some of the dog loving public for extreme features. Sigh. The battle is such a huge one,but every small step such as this TV segment is a victory.<br />It will be interesting to see if "A separate posting will be made regarding important research in to BOAS" ever appears. Leilanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-85289198228059715892016-04-08T02:06:37.695+01:002016-04-08T02:06:37.695+01:00Yes, heartening stuff isn't it.Yes, heartening stuff isn't it.Antonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14041212020431214852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-62925059959429171642016-04-08T02:00:32.363+01:002016-04-08T02:00:32.363+01:00Nail on the head.
Crickey weren't he rude to...Nail on the head. <br /><br />Crickey weren't he rude to Maria Karrison!Antonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14041212020431214852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-90241597715884560712016-04-07T21:37:27.976+01:002016-04-07T21:37:27.976+01:00The link to the study on longevity of brachycephal...The link to the study on longevity of brachycephalic breeds seems to be broken, at least it doen't work for me. Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02743280662617686312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-46384088211236248932016-04-07T18:02:09.101+01:002016-04-07T18:02:09.101+01:00Meanwhile NKK (Norwegian Kennel Club) posts this ...Meanwhile NKK (Norwegian Kennel Club) posts this yesterday :<br />http://web2.nkk.no/no/nyheter/Fokus+p%C3%A5+kortsnutede+raser.b7C_wlHK4R.ips<br /><br />I'm sorry it's only in Norwegian. Snøfrosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05524842531238935895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-35487395367334042372016-04-07T14:00:30.071+01:002016-04-07T14:00:30.071+01:00Wow, good discussion on mainstream TV. Glad to see...Wow, good discussion on mainstream TV. Glad to see experts speaking candidly about the dangers of extreme breeding (brachycephaly). It seems the dam has a crack in it. Now we just need to let that crack widen.AmericanLionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10224557937576435963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-23422658018796240212016-04-07T03:49:49.101+01:002016-04-07T03:49:49.101+01:00People love to scream that they are being attacked...People love to scream that they are being attacked when anyone else points out unpleasant truths.Annahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11988735723510878162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-11025037934394493882016-04-07T01:19:22.158+01:002016-04-07T01:19:22.158+01:00It's just a broken record the world over from ...It's just a broken record the world over from the registries and breeders of dogs which conform to obviously-flawed standards. "It's not us, it's those non-KC breeders!" "We're health testing, and they don't!" "We care about our dogs!" "We fund research!" Yet they continue to miss or detract from the most obvious point that you so successfully make post after post regarding these phenotype issues: the problems are right in front of their eyes. The problems can be alleviated simply through selecting for more moderate morphology. If they would accept that simple fact, perhaps the critics would start taking them a bit more seriously. Merriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12569399662021156149noreply@blogger.com