tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post3133467678110804758..comments2024-03-17T08:06:06.686+00:00Comments on Pedigree Dogs Exposed - The Blog: Royal Canin: no prizesJemima Harrisonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05092892697145388048noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-72380569463519766012012-10-22T07:24:39.047+01:002012-10-22T07:24:39.047+01:00Actually it depends on what kind of breed you have...Actually it depends on what kind of breed you have!!!Food Manufacturerhttp://www.nilons.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-11932760935260897342012-06-17T13:16:17.475+01:002012-06-17T13:16:17.475+01:00While not siding with Eileen, I find your views no...While not siding with Eileen, I find your views no less extreme. To assume that "everyone outside the show ring" shares them is crass arrogance. In effect here you say no more than "I hate show groomed poodles"; show grooming causes no suffering.<br />They have to be groomed for their own wellbeing, ours mostly sleep on the table. To me, a well-groomed poodle is a work of art. You say art is an ingrown world irrelevant to the rest of humanity, I say you lack the imagination to consider that others may see something you cannot. However that may be, you certainly show no ability to see others' points of view.<br />The only opinion that really matters to me is that of my 4-legged friends, covering the floor here after morning run. One does object to grooming, the process not the result, he is now in pet trim. Would re-home, but he's too attached to his "mum" - and vice versa. Another not relishing the show ring, these days does just agility: leaving two that happily 'strut their stuff'. Proving that dogs, like people, are different: respect individuality, you're not the model of normality.<br />Fitness for purpose in a dog means fitting into human society. To that end, the abilities I'd require of poodles are: mins and toys, standing jump from floor to their lady's lap; standards, onto the grooming table. At least one of ours would love a duck between her teeth, but we're far from the wild, and local park-keepers would not be so thrilled. Human society has its eccentricities, poodle-showing a harmless one, can't you accept that?Bob Grundynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-78642956224184355592012-06-15T20:07:58.683+01:002012-06-15T20:07:58.683+01:00My nostrils DO close like that, and it *is* misera...My nostrils DO close like that, and it *is* miserable. It wasn't so bad when I was younger, but now that I'm older I'm seriously considering nostril widening surgery. My nostrils are incredibly narrow. If I have a runny nose, I can't actually suck snot back in as not enough air comes in to do that, I have to hold my nostrils open to get enough air in. Which makes exercise really difficult as I age, and it's why surgeons think I always gave up on physical exercise as a child.<br /> <br />If someone who can fix the problem, and is aware of the problem, struggles so much and is so miserable, think about how it is in a dog that has no options.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-26700902911339041422012-06-15T11:34:51.587+01:002012-06-15T11:34:51.587+01:00Now there is a happy new dog owner that just got h...Now there is a happy new dog owner that just got her pug home, on a swedish dog forum.<br />This is the dog: http://uploads.ifokus.se/uploads/eae/eaed1110a16848a5a93f4607567a66e6/img-8427.jpg<br />...and I'll TRY not to say anything, because I don't think I'll make the world a better place.<br />But god do I feel sorry for that pup.Frida Nyberghttp://www.wix.com/zanizaila/wikusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-90302582448987982382012-06-14T22:22:45.055+01:002012-06-14T22:22:45.055+01:00I'm confused. Royal Canin seems to have taken...I'm confused. Royal Canin seems to have taken the thing down, so can't refer to original. That doesn't look like a pug snout. What breed is it?Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14389321571689128858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-8169217739165028072012-06-14T16:48:44.687+01:002012-06-14T16:48:44.687+01:00Huh? abnormal is the new normal?? or the latitudes...Huh? abnormal is the new normal?? or the latitudes of 'normal' are so broad that normal is no longer a valid term for even assessing the expected and intended function of life sustenance attributes. The RC response is idiotic which is perfectly normal coming from an drone programmed to 'dribble' idiocy. "We can assure you..." Apparently not!Barrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-65497277011172114142012-06-14T15:00:42.242+01:002012-06-14T15:00:42.242+01:00But you don't mind cropped ears obviouslyBut you don't mind cropped ears obviouslyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-86371089501532054162012-06-14T12:53:12.895+01:002012-06-14T12:53:12.895+01:00Just like to quickly add that after expressing my ...Just like to quickly add that after expressing my doubts at this being normal and my wish that they would not promote it as such they straight away replied -<br /><br /> <br />Royal Canin 14 June 11:14<br />Thanks Alison - we take your comments on board.<br /><br />-a prompt response so thought I should copy this in also in fairness to themDixybluehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15366570316247933813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-25663458864187070812012-06-14T12:51:58.794+01:002012-06-14T12:51:58.794+01:00And, conversely, Neapolitan Mastiff rarely exhibit...And, conversely, Neapolitan Mastiff rarely exhibit stenotic nares - so it's certainly possible to have shortened muzzles + wrinkling and wide-open nostrils. You just have to make sure you select for them. I think the issue is that awareness of how important they are has been patchy - but it is growing. You don't see pinched nostrils being rewarded so often in breeds where it has been particularly highlighted - ie. pugs, pekes and bulldogs. <br /><br />JemimaJemima Harrisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05092892697145388048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-23773015316850663882012-06-14T12:45:08.229+01:002012-06-14T12:45:08.229+01:00Frida, I think one factor is the overly short nose...Frida, I think one factor is the overly short nose and then anothe factor is the extra-wrinkles/tissue, I think both contribute to narrow nostrils and bad breathing. I have noticed that Dogges de Bourdeaux often have pinched nostrils even though their noses aren't all that short.Bóxer Urkabustaizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13142622158336169758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-57357458783232095182012-06-14T12:35:31.893+01:002012-06-14T12:35:31.893+01:00This boxer has pinched nostrils. There is no point...This boxer has pinched nostrils. There is no point in denying it. Something we should try to avoid in the puppies we produce.Bóxer Urkabustaizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13142622158336169758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-27085804843072437052012-06-14T11:05:39.419+01:002012-06-14T11:05:39.419+01:00I posted a question to Royal Canin and got this ve...I posted a question to Royal Canin and got this very quick reply - <br />Royal Canin 13 June 21:19<br />Hi Alison, There aren't really 'normal' nostrils. Nostrils are very different across the dog breeds and cross-breeds. You may not necessarily have noticed this unless you look at noses very closely - as in these pictures. We can assure you that all of these photographs are of perfectly healthy and happy dogs - as all of our animal images are.<br /><br />Hmmm<br /><br />Plus, my 5 year old -inherited I must add, I would never have chosen one - Cavalier has just had to have 6 teeth extracted because they were overcrowded and causing inflammation. This on top of his spinal problems, heart disease and eye troubleDixybluehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15366570316247933813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-79839431036566353552012-06-14T09:01:35.998+01:002012-06-14T09:01:35.998+01:00I've been concerned about brachycephalic breed...I've been concerned about brachycephalic breeds for several years, but it's not until more recently (probably by discovering this blog) that I noticed the pinched nostrils that nearly all those dogs, like bulldogs, pugs, pekingeses etc, have.<br /><br />It doesn't seem to be the length of the nose itself that causes the pinched nostrils - King Charles Spaniel, though flat-faced, often has good nostrils because they don't have the massive wrinkles that the bulldog, pug, pekingese and boxer (which has a longer muzzle) have.<br /><br />The same with Dogue de Bordeaux, Bull mastiff, and that poor indian Mastino you posted earlier - longer noses, but nostrils pinched shut because of excess wrinkles.<br /><br />Then of course the King Charles Spaniel (note that I'm not saying "Cavalier") still has the problem of any short-faced breed; which is that only the skull is shortened, the teeth, airways and soft palate are still the same size.<br />The dogs that have short AND wrinkly faces are just in for twice the suffering.Frida Nyberghttp://www.wix.com/zanizaila/wikusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-71098140236940906032012-06-14T07:32:28.166+01:002012-06-14T07:32:28.166+01:00I'm not sure if you've seen the commercial...I'm not sure if you've seen the commercials for IAMS dog food, but they also use defective breeds to sell their products while still telling the owners that said breeds are "the picture of health" because of the dog food they eat.<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZQfuvGoFcs<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-sPdv2mKLYStoutheartedhoundshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10559384521672598593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-25224283219581915812012-06-14T07:28:58.908+01:002012-06-14T07:28:58.908+01:00Goodness. I urge everyone to look at Kate's li...Goodness. I urge everyone to look at Kate's link.<br /><br />JemimaJemima Harrisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05092892697145388048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-30601096324635615082012-06-14T05:56:59.117+01:002012-06-14T05:56:59.117+01:00Royal Canin are actually quite generous to the Pug...Royal Canin are actually quite generous to the Pug.<br /><br />https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151011396917559&set=a.66670257558.100701.739062558&type=1&theaterKate Pricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12984661154425549615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-40384455845197428952012-06-13T23:13:39.754+01:002012-06-13T23:13:39.754+01:00http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs13/i/2007/028/a/7/Per...http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs13/i/2007/028/a/7/Persian_cat_skull_1_by_WarpSkellian.jpg<br />Note that it is normal for a feline's orbital bones to barely or even not form an enclosed circle, so as freaky as that part looks, it is sound. But look at the crumpled nasal bones. The tissues and cavities inside are just as crumpled. People joke about the cats looking like they've smashed into a wall, and that's pretty much what the insides look like too.<br />A historical-type persian: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Skull_of_a_Persian_cat.jpg<br />And a wild-type cat: http://www.nhc.ed.ac.uk/images/collections/mammals/carnivora/catskull.jpg<br /><br />The angles are all different, but a little brain-power can determine which features are exaggerated by angles and which are exaggerated by fancy.<br /><br />http://www.vetsonline.com/actualites/detail/21667/brachycephalia-a-bastardisation-of-what-makes-cats-special.html<br />Notice the "severe" cat's skull closely resembles an infant primate.Ellamennopeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07872808520360560298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-15821822194653516842012-06-13T22:47:25.537+01:002012-06-13T22:47:25.537+01:00http://media-cache-ec3.pinterest.com/upload/229191...http://media-cache-ec3.pinterest.com/upload/229191068506144623_XEshGDHh_c.jpg<br /><br />And to think, the torture is just beginning in June.Ellamennopeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07872808520360560298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-46727921852990905092012-06-13T20:25:14.713+01:002012-06-13T20:25:14.713+01:00The criticism of the blurb is kind of ridiculous. ...The criticism of the blurb is kind of ridiculous. How do you misunderstand a common term like "perfect example"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-74584453031217780712012-06-13T20:23:25.778+01:002012-06-13T20:23:25.778+01:00The vet came out to vaccinate my horse today, howe...The vet came out to vaccinate my horse today, however she was late, because she was held up in surgery. She had to remove 17 teeth from a Pug!!! And when I asked her what went so wrong that the poor dog needed such drastic surgery, the vet said that it was simply the disaterously wrong jaw shape that just couldn't accomodate all the teeth the poor dog was born with. How can anybody even attempt to deffend dog breeding that leads to this? I suppose Royal Canin could start manufacturing yet another type of kibble for pugs with 5 teeth or less - a niche market! <br /><br />GloriaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-15364041292876170492012-06-13T17:05:58.958+01:002012-06-13T17:05:58.958+01:00Poor pooch. How can he breathe? :(Poor pooch. How can he breathe? :(Bethnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-50788521010802928212012-06-13T17:00:48.962+01:002012-06-13T17:00:48.962+01:00Very interested in your comment regarding doing a ...Very interested in your comment regarding doing a promo for PDCats Exposed..... Any indication of a viewing date yet? <br /><br />Hope it gives the cat community the same kick in the bottom that PDE did.Kiltienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-51683652490776538232012-06-13T16:46:08.094+01:002012-06-13T16:46:08.094+01:00Having just looked at my own dogs' wide-open n...Having just looked at my own dogs' wide-open nares, I can't look at that photo without shuddering! Breeders of Brachycephalic dogs should spend a day with a peg pinching their nostrils shut; it may give them some empathy for what their dogs go through every day of their lives. I hate having a cold and not being able to breathe through my nose properly - it disrupts my sleep - oh wait, don't Brachychepahlics suffer from snoring and sleep apnea too?Frannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-26927632943680982212012-06-13T16:04:32.457+01:002012-06-13T16:04:32.457+01:00My dog's nostrils never close when he breathes...My dog's nostrils never close when he breathes in. Probably because he actually has a nose...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-86094917396032986432012-06-13T16:02:02.692+01:002012-06-13T16:02:02.692+01:00Dogs' 'nostrals' do not close when the...Dogs' 'nostrals' do not close when they breathe in. This is the dog's default physiology. I have some video that can prove this if you would like to see it - but suggest you just look closely at your own dogs.<br /><br />JemimaJemima Harrisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05092892697145388048noreply@blogger.com