tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post1445655616289957018..comments2024-03-20T17:32:35.238+00:00Comments on Pedigree Dogs Exposed - The Blog: French Bulldogs removed from the KC's high profile listJemima Harrisonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05092892697145388048noreply@blogger.comBlogger59125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-38711246397961720082018-10-07T08:22:55.288+01:002018-10-07T08:22:55.288+01:00French Bulldog Pup For Sale in india| Dog For Sale...French Bulldog Pup For Sale in india| Dog For Sale | Kitten For Sale<br /><a href="http://www.petbuy.in/french-bulldog" rel="nofollow">French Bulldog pup price in India</a><br /><a href="http://www.asiapets.in/petshop/french-bulldog" rel="nofollow">French Bulldog pup price in Delhi </a><br />puppy for sale in Indiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02458819759675146518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-42744834576738037392016-03-02T07:48:40.381+00:002016-03-02T07:48:40.381+00:00It is the same with us.We have now a frenchy witho...It is the same with us.We have now a frenchy without pedegree and he has a tail, longer legs and spine then the usual, the nose is not flat too. He is 15 months now , he znores ,but not much, but is a perpeto-mobile - so active. I am glad he doesn;t meet the so called standards.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04582519293110433918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-1011451718957937502016-02-21T07:58:10.109+00:002016-02-21T07:58:10.109+00:00We bought a French Bulldog pup...so cute, but as i...We bought a French Bulldog pup...so cute, but as it has grown it has a longer nose and is so active, doesn't snore, doesn't drool, etc. we previously owned on who did all of the above. we thought the new one must have been crossed with a ? Boxer or something in the past but having read about Mutt the bulldog runner, I can now see that our little one is better bred although not of show quality. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09268551167945438354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-64402513832033932482015-12-24T21:24:09.398+00:002015-12-24T21:24:09.398+00:00i think frenchbulldogs are too linebred - especial...i think frenchbulldogs are too linebred - especialy in the usa. europian showfrenchies are realy extensive gaited in the rings. they are<br />not extremely shortbacked as usa frenchies - i prefer their type. i have 8 year olds without high vetbills.quellwater@gmail.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13762605614277692975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-69345552773508293572015-11-05T11:24:54.429+00:002015-11-05T11:24:54.429+00:00In my opinion, this is how a french bulldog should...In my opinion, this is how a french bulldog should look:<br />http://www.von-imekenthorp.com/hunde/lilly/<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-38809926831780811422015-10-11T20:46:34.418+01:002015-10-11T20:46:34.418+01:00Anyone have any stats in regards to the average CO...Anyone have any stats in regards to the average COI in this breed? Perhaps a large part of their problem with uterine inertia, early death, etc.. can be attributed to inbreeding depression as well as their insanely exaggerated conformation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-75886147697403355372015-06-19T17:34:08.456+01:002015-06-19T17:34:08.456+01:00I own a Frenchie and we got her because we had fal...I own a Frenchie and we got her because we had fallen in love with a French Bulldog that lived next door to my mother-in-law. I had no idea at the time about the bracheo-cephalic problems. Boy, do I now! Luci is unable to take a regular walk with us, because she gets out of breath so easily, and then she heats up, and then the cycle is started. The more hotter she gets, the harder it is to breathe, which causes her to be anxious, thus causing more heat and panting that is so loud it breaks your heart. I have to mindful and keep the air cool in the house for her at all times, so she can breathe properly. Luci has the typical smashed nose, short back and short legs, with huge ears. She came from Europe....we had her flown over to the US. (another terrible story)!<br /><br />I blame myself because I was clueless at the time when we got her. I didn't take the time to educate myself about dog breeds and especially the French Bulldog. We take very good care of her, but she has had quite a few medical problems and the vet bills are very costly. I can't say that I did wrong in getting her. I love her more than anything. She is 10 now and just had surgery for mammary tumor removal. <br /><br />I would just advise anyone getting a French Bulldog to please research, and get a Rescue Frenchie.....we need to stop putting our money out there to keep the short muzzle breed going. It is heartbreaking to see these dogs suffer. Know ahead of time that your Frenchie needs regular vet check-ups. Get your Frenchie spayed or neutered. Stop breeding the short muzzled breed. Getting a female fixed before her first heat cycle will greatly reduce the chances of mammary cancer and other female related cancers later on. And above all, love your puppy like she is a part of your family! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-2328376556370831652015-05-21T14:00:50.860+01:002015-05-21T14:00:50.860+01:00Here, here!!! I am disabled & I am 1 tough SOB...Here, here!!! I am disabled & I am 1 tough SOB!!! Yet I would gladly choose to be a tough SOB who isn't disabled... or even a cowardly/weak SOB or whatever & YES, NOT be disabled... Frankly if I could be healthy, I would take just about any "drawback"... Barring a choice to be healthy, I will take being dead & no longer suffering needlessly (especially for another's sick preferences, profits, ribbons in show rings, pseudo ideal or worse their pleasure in my suffering!!!)<br /><br />I have always wondered why people choose such breeds & nearest I can see, it's represents a very disturbed pathology of all that matters is my own petty desires above all else... After all how would they feel if I crushed their noses into their faces &/or deformed any part of their body?<br /><br />Maybe you will listen to it coming from a person that suffers similar medical issues... IT IS GOD AWFUL!!! YOU ARE SENTENCING YOUR BELOVED'S TO NOTHING LESS THAN A LIFETIME OF TORTURE!!! Let's be very clear here... You have no right to have any sort of dog you want at the expense of the dogs suffering!!!<br /><br />To the poster who mentioned watching his dog suffer a milder form of suffering compared to those deformed pure breds; 1st I am sorry you went through that but you hit the nail on the head re: difference between acceptable vs unacceptable, it was after many good years, wasn't as extreme & you acknowledge your role in protecting your future animals from such suffering... Congrats, you are a decent human being; unfortunately the same can't be said for your circle of friends.<br /><br />Seriously folks, how much more evidence do you need that the system is woefully inadequate & corrupted??? How much more proof will you demand before you stop demanding proof & start demanding change??? Enough is enough!!!<br /><br />Adam Bartlett of the "Radical Canadian Reform" partyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-7428492805185135962015-04-21T05:55:45.875+01:002015-04-21T05:55:45.875+01:00we bought our little frenchie in Bulgaria, while l...we bought our little frenchie in Bulgaria, while living there, home raised from a really great family. He has a long back, out at the nose, all that that. But he can run, jump, play and out breathe any dog and especially any frenchie at the dog park. We're really happy with our counterfeit frenchie :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-67484782033771756352015-02-28T00:13:11.585+00:002015-02-28T00:13:11.585+00:00I have a Frenchie we bought as pet quality. Ironi...I have a Frenchie we bought as pet quality. Ironically, she looks a lot like the one from 1925. Our breeder was originally from England and bought her stock from there. I am happy to say our Sadie is 11 years old and healthy!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-47237625218137010282014-09-03T12:58:53.610+01:002014-09-03T12:58:53.610+01:00It is about the marketing and the MONEY so breeder...It is about the marketing and the MONEY so breeders create an aura of snob appeal resulting in higher prices in my opinion. It is not about the love, empathy and caring for the dog and wanting it to be healthy. People fall for the marketing and pay huge prices for deformed dogs so breeders breed them. They criticize backyard breeders with the healthier Frenchies because they do not want to lose MONEY to them. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-74440757706581625472014-05-02T13:15:52.699+01:002014-05-02T13:15:52.699+01:00This is an excellent article. The KC does little t...This is an excellent article. The KC does little to improve the health of breeds IMO and mostly their efforts appear to be publicity stunts. We bought a KC registered pure bred French bulldog 10 years ago and his breathing is atrocious. At the time he was deemed closer to the standard than his brother, due to his extremely short muzzle. Aged only six months he needed an urgent operation to reduce the length of his soft palate and cut out laryngeal saccules. A second operation was required at three years of age. His wind pipe was tiny and during exercise became clogged with phlegm generated by the shortened salivary glands. He could only ever manage very short walks in cool weather and aged only six years had to stop walks completely. Amazingly he is still with us and is now aged ten, but that is probably because he lives a very easy indoor life and just ventures into the garden. It is true that constitutionally he seems tough, but that means little when he can't breathe properly. I tried dog showing many years ago and have never met a stranger bunch of people in my life - it is all about winning at any cost.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-90875137884787702372014-05-02T12:14:30.625+01:002014-05-02T12:14:30.625+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.Acerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08750464419965339555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-45993524022238002752014-04-29T20:22:48.549+01:002014-04-29T20:22:48.549+01:00I love this article. We bred or frenchie for the f...I love this article. We bred or frenchie for the first time and had a great experience, she did not need a C-section and she had 3 beautiful daughters, no losses. When it came time to sell, we got slammed because one of them had a long, straight, tapering tail. Turns out it's nothing but a sign of good spinal health but no one wanted her and we reduced the price due to this "malformity". It really put me off the from "breeding" crowd. Katienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-44898078331194702692013-11-16T03:28:00.480+00:002013-11-16T03:28:00.480+00:00Continued from above...
But apparently, not every...Continued from above...<br /><br />But apparently, not everyone is seeing it that way. I know plenty of people who happily get the second or third pug, even if the last on cost them a s***load of money and tears because of expectable problems. I know people who get one Irish Wolfhound after the next, even though they keep dying on them closer to five than to ten years, hoping with every new puppy that THIS time around it will be different, that it was really only the feeding or the exercise or the vaccinations... and failing again and again.<br />I know people who own a scottish fold (cat breed, also with conformation induced health problems), a Basset Hound and a Dogue de Bordeaux, ALL of them with health issues typical of their breeds. They already visit the vet 2-3 times a week, at least on of the pets is always sick, they have medicine cabinet for the animals that could double as a backup pharmacy in case of a national emergency. And now they want to get an English Bulldog because... I don`t understand, that`s because. <br /><br />What is wrong with such people? Are they masochists or something? Honestly, it boogles my mindAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-26272817413297791472013-11-16T03:26:29.507+00:002013-11-16T03:26:29.507+00:00I have a 13 -14 year old longdog, most likely salu...I have a 13 -14 year old longdog, most likely saluki x greyhound cross (precise cross and age not known as he came from a pound, but it can be narrowed down to that age range). During the last year he has begun to display symptoms of larygeal paralysis: <br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laryngeal_paralysis<br />A fairly common problem of older dogs of many larger breeds, not really something typical for his supposed parent breeds. <br /><br />Some of the symptoms as well as part of the management of this disease are similar to what dogs with Brachycephalic Airway Syndrome go through, because in both diseases soft tissue gets in the way of free breathing. <br /><br />The BIG difference is that my dog got it at a ripe old age of about 12-13 yrs and the symptoms are still mild even now: He has a rough inspiratory noise when panting and can`t bark anymore. He`s only panting when it`s really hot outside and he`s moving. <br />No problems in colder weather, no problems when he`s resting or just walking around normally instead of walking briskly or trotting. <br /><br />But during the hottest weeks this summer, he was visibly out of it. Very weak, panting a lot even when resting in the shade. Not getting cyanotic or fainting, but labored breathing with his thorax and abdomen moving heavily and occasionally yakking up foamy mucus that had accumulated at the vocal folds. <br />His symptoms are laughable in comparison to what several pugs and frenchies in my direct circle of acquaintances go through. And yet I had a hard time watching him in this comparably mild distress this summer. I found this seriously heart-wrenching.<br /><br />Many brachy dogs go through this or similar every day of their lifes. The pugs and frenchies I know personally are NOT extremely exaggerated, they are, from what I see at shows and on walks/at the dog park, somewhere in the middle range of awfulness you can find in this breeds. They have squishy faces and stenotic nares, but not as bad as some examples on this blog. <br />Every one of them has worse breathing than my old dog has now that he has a diagnosed disease. The owners don`t see a problem with that. They don`t see ANY problem at all. <br />What`s painful for me to watch, because I knew my dog in his normal, healthy state, is business as usual for them. <br />There`s a massive cognitive dissonance going on with fanciers of breeds with extreme brachycephalic conformation, a shift in the borders of "normal" and "pathological".<br /><br />Same goes for vet visits and vet bills. Not every dog of every breed can be perfectly health all its life until it dies peacefully of old age. There will always be more and less fortunate dogs. Even in relatively healty breeds some just draw the short straw. That`s life. <br />But, monthly (or even more frequent) vet visits because of this problem or that and bills over several thousands over the years aren`t "normal" or average or to be expected. I would stay the hell away from every breed where that`s the case!<br /><br />My dogs (greyhounds, salukis, said crossbred) usually don`t see the vet for years, save for maybe vaccinations. <br />If I had a dog that needed frequent vet care of course I would see to it that it gets whatever is necessary. But I would try everything in my might to not get a dog with these problems ever again, including not buying the same breed a second time if the problems were typical for the breed. <br /><br />Continued below...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-19715492109146841962013-11-14T21:39:59.503+00:002013-11-14T21:39:59.503+00:00Many in the dog world are sceptical about how this...Many in the dog world are sceptical about how this breed was removed from the HPB list maybe having the KC rep co opted onto the breed club committee helped or Mrs Parsons is better at spin than the government spin doctorsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-43002717805879224872013-11-09T21:33:23.844+00:002013-11-09T21:33:23.844+00:00Carol, I really take my hat off to you for your co...Carol, I really take my hat off to you for your common sense approach to dog breeding. I wish more breeders in other breeds would be as open minded and sensible. I have always promoted only buying puppies from breeders who health screen their breeding stock and only breed from dogs with good results. I can't tell you the number of times I have spent time speaking with people on the phone, advising them of the importance of only buying from breeders who carry out the appropriate screening, only to discover they purchase from breeders who scrimp on full screening but portray health as being of utmost importance. When I ask why, they tell me they only want a pet! Surely when you pay so much money for a puppy you want a member of your family that is going to be healthy and not require constant visits to the vet? That really perplexes me..and until the purchasing public realise that things won't change until they start to purchase carefully.<br /><br />I'd like to see tv advertising campaigns promoting good breeders and showing the public how to buy a puppy....because their buying habits are the only things that will change the lives of dogs being bred purely for profit.Annie Macfarlanenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-86868549573696852542013-11-05T12:38:07.162+00:002013-11-05T12:38:07.162+00:00Carol,
What tests would you consider essential? I...Carol,<br />What tests would you consider essential? If you look at the Finnish KC database, you find that only a few percent of registered Frenchies are tested for hips or elbows or spinal arthritis, while around one and five are eye tested or elbow tested. Maybe it's better elsewhere.<br /><br />See http://jalostus.kennelliitto.fi/frmTerveystilastot.aspx?R=101&Lang=enJenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14389321571689128858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-51407690277452324902013-11-04T17:23:11.006+00:002013-11-04T17:23:11.006+00:00check out their review on embrace pet insurance. t...check out their review on embrace pet insurance. they have a list of conditions as long as your arm.<br /> Though i've always thought white animals had more issues.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-81294997875176660572013-11-04T17:20:45.145+00:002013-11-04T17:20:45.145+00:00carol cavaliers are not supposed to be domed eithe...carol cavaliers are not supposed to be domed either. They still have SM. Some doming may actually help as a small skull has less room for the brain.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-69482334727216620572013-11-04T17:18:02.625+00:002013-11-04T17:18:02.625+00:00when I had my dog MRI scanned the vet mentioned he...when I had my dog MRI scanned the vet mentioned he had recently scanned two frenchies from the same owner with SM in their entire spinal cord. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-22767661162491994302013-11-04T12:45:19.612+00:002013-11-04T12:45:19.612+00:00'Mixed breeds suffer MOST from genetic conditi...'Mixed breeds suffer MOST from genetic conditions??'<br /><br />Hmm....evidence suggests that mixed breeds live on average 1.8 years longer than most pedigree dogs.....(no citation to hand BUT quoted in 'Pukka's Promise' by Ted Kerasote which has peer reviewed literature sources). Doesn't mean to say that mutts don't suffer from single gene or genetically predisposed disorders of course, but mutts WILL be more genetically diverse by their very nature which would generally stand them in better stead than a line bred dog with regard to recessive disorders. That's a gamble of course, but better a gamble with a mutt than a pedigree dog where you know that they have been genetically wrecked.<br /><br /> And I'd rather have a mutt than a French Bulldog anyday! They look just look horribly inbred. The pic from 1925 looks much better. I agree with Fran - they just look ugly and un-dog like.<br /><br />With regard to the comment that the general public would rather have the cheapest dog possible and damn the consequences. Really?<br />The reason I went for an adopted 'cheap' mutt was not because she was cheap, but because I have no faith in pedigree dog breeders charging hundreds of pounds for breeding dogs that are, in some cases, essentially dropping to bits...<br /><br />Until I'm reassured that things are improving for the health and welfare of the dogs, I'll vote with my feet. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-66770537557506289522013-11-02T17:53:33.512+00:002013-11-02T17:53:33.512+00:00Well, as breeders we can only clean up our own bac...Well, as breeders we can only clean up our own backyards, and spread the word, as openly as possible, about health conditions within the breed. <br /><br />I will say that there is FAR more support for and active participation in health testing and screening today than there was when I first became involved in French Bulldogs. Then, the idea of health tested was laughed at - you were considered an extremist if you mentioned it, or talked about issues your dogs had had. <br /><br />Now, it's very rare to see a breeder who does not list health clearances, and breeders asking for clearances on a dog they are going to use at stud, or purchase, is just par for the course. <br /><br />Destigmatizing health conditions is a HUGE part of encouraging breeders to be more open to health testing, and more proactive about ensuring their own dogs are clear. <br /><br />If you make 'health cleared dogs' a mandatory benchmark for how you can judge and evaluate a breeder, then it offers the public the option of purchasing healthier dogs.<br /><br />The issue, at least in part, still falls on the shoulders of the public who would rather purchase the cheapest dog possible, damn the consequences. These dogs then end up being held up as examples of how 'screwed up' our breed is. As someone who does rescue, I can tell you that the dogs we encounter who suffer most from genetic conditions have either been mixed breeds, or dogs from cheap online sales sites. I'm sure that partially this is because good breeders take care of their own puppies who fall ill, but still - a LOT of it illustrates the principle that to get healthy dogs, you need to only breed from or to healthy dogs. Carolhttp://www.bullmarketfrogs.com/blognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1183957703077342201.post-19740921196623809122013-11-02T17:45:21.916+00:002013-11-02T17:45:21.916+00:00The only case I've ever seen was in a Chihuahu...The only case I've ever seen was in a Chihuahua - French Bulldog cross. I've examined data on almost 4,000 French Bulldogs world wide, so I'm not sure that makes it statistically significant as a condition. <br /><br />Part of this may be due to the fact that French Bulldogs are specifically NOT meant to be apple headed - the standard specifies a skull that is broad and flat across the head, and not domed. <br /><br />Not that we don't have our fair share of conditions to be concerned with, but at least we've been spared syringomyelia.Carolhttp://www.bullmarketfrogs.com/blognoreply@blogger.com